Please Please Please..... Put Toby in the back 4

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You haven't been a match thread when Forster was playing have you? Every single mistake he was ripped apart and people calling for him to be dropped. Now he isn't playing people are seeing how much Forster helps our defence.

Of course I've seen it. And i don't disagree with you on that. But Forster is not my argument. I'm saying support whoever the **** is chosen to play in goal, not criticise anyone who happens to make a mistake.
 
Gazzaniga must not play for the Saints again because players never ever improve with time.

Vin

Jeez, not another one. Read my posts mate. I said I'm happy for Gazzaniga to be given the opportunity to progress (and I hope he is), just not in these final games of the season, cos there is still too much at stake.

Does anyone still not understand?
 
I agree, however I must say that we are more solid with Fraser and that's confidence in him is shown by the defenders. He does have a greater presence than SKD. I'm ok with SKD, but it has shown me how good Fraser is.

Remember it is not just the saves or mistakes that count.

FLT, Fraser is injured, get used to it!!!!!!!!! :)
 
Gazzaniga hasn't looked ****e playing for the u21's this season. He was **** before because he wasn't ready. I'm not saying he's ready now but he looks a lot more commanding of his area. I'm still hopeful he will play for Saints again in the PL. Out of interest, have you seen him playing for the u21's this season or are you forming your opinion based on a few years ago?

Once again, I'm happy for him to get another chance, just not this season.
 
FLT, Fraser is injured, get used to it!!!!!!!!! :)

Is that what happens when there is nothing left to say in a discussion? Come on Susan ( that sounds odd :)) I am used to it. I haven't criticised SKD on this thread, just having a dig at the Fraser bashers from earlier in the season, as right now we're showing how good he is.
 
Is that what happens when there is nothing left to say in a discussion? Come on Susan ( that sounds odd :)) I am used to it. I haven't criticised SKD on this thread, just having a dig at the Fraser bashers from earlier in the season, as right now we're showing how good he is.

But the whole Fraser argument is irrelevant to what I was originally arguing. I saw people attcking Kelvin's performances, so I stuck up for him. And as a result those attacking him have managed to twist the debate onto other issues, namely Gazzaniga and Forster, neither of whom it was my intention to discuss.

PS - You can call me Suzy or Sue if you want, I really don't mind.
 
But the whole Fraser argument is irrelevant to what I was originally arguing. I saw people attcking Kelvin's performances, so I stuck up for him. And as a result those attacking him have managed to twist the debate onto other issues, namely Gazzaniga and Forster, neither of whom it was my intention to discuss.

PS - You can call me Suzy or Sue if you want, I really don't mind.

A boy named Sue?

Kelvin didn't need to be attacked for either. The Spuds or Sunderland game.
 
A boy named Sue?

Kelvin didn't need to be attacked for either. The Spuds or Sunderland game.

Exactly. Kelvin has 2 clean sheets and has conceded 5 goals (non-penalties) in his seven games. In the seven previous to those Fraser kept 3 clean sheets and conceded 5 goals.

Let's face it, our second half of the season has not been as strong as the first half, but there are myriad factors for this, and to start blaming individuals is bonkers. Everyone has lost form a little bit, Clyne, Pelle, Tadic, and on Saturday even Wanyama. The fact that Kelvin has had to come into a team lower on form and confidence is hardly fair to him in this whole debate.
 
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Exactly. Kelvin has 2 clean sheets and has conceded 5 goals (non-penalties) in his seven games. In the seven previous to those Fraser kept 3 clean sheets and conceded 5 goals.

Let's face it, our second half of the season has not been as strong as the first half, but there are myriad factors for this, and to start blaming individuals is bonkers. Everyone has lost form a little bit, Clyne, Pelle, Tadic, and on Saturday even Wanyama. The fact that Kelvin has had to come into a team lower on form and confidence is hardly fair to him in this whole debate.
The whole debate started with people wanting Yoshida dropped, so Toby moves back to cb. I then started taking the piss by saying bring back Forster. Yoshida hasn't done anything wrong either.
 
Yoshida has been a revelation to me....thought he was OK, but not good enough for Saints. Amazed when he got a new contract. However, Koeman has seen something in him and/or improved him, so we now have a back up CB that doesn't strike fear in your heart when he plays.
 
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Yoshida has done very well this season and been impressive. He has deserved his new contract. He is our third best CB currently, so tough as it seems, I'd play my best team and that starts with my best defensive partnership: Fonte and Alderweireld, if a 2 played.
 
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What is crock? Davis is done at the end of the season he'll retire.

2. Slang Foolish talk; nonsense: That story is just a crock.

It's from the term crock of ****. Some phrase from the Middle Ages, which is when Kelvin started playing :emoticon-0100-smile

This debate has moved on, but needless to say my view is that it doesn't matter whether he finishes at the end of the season or in five years. He is doing a decent job right now
 
We would have probably done better with Maya in today, he could have had the job of keeping that goalscorer quiet! RonKo should never take advice from this Forum ever again.
 
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