Medro, Souness, Preston
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Don't assume what I know Pweston.
I asked you to explain.
Jimmy asked you to explain.
If you can't or wont address it, then it is your problem and your ignorance....nobody elses.
Webel you are the one coming accross as an ignorant idiot you keep on deflecting from the issue and won't accept that you have bigoted fans one last one for you from a leading Irish MP when asked by the media why Orange Bastard was an Insult in Ireland can you guess what it is yet?
'Orange as in orangeman... an archaic biggoted institute for Protestants In ireland who support the efforts of Prince William of Orange (a dutchman) against King James(of england) in the late 17th century in Ireland'
That is what I will leave you with End of Debate now if I was to ask you why Fenian was Bigoted.............
that makes no sense.
apart from the bit where you called the OO an archaic biggoted (sic) organisation.
I've told you 3 times yet you can't grasp it you continue to deflect now answer my question.
So when Walter Smith is told he is a sad Orange bastard, how can that be justified unless hes actually a member of the Orange Order? Surely its religious stereotyping, hes Protestant and therefore Orange?
Being called a fenian bastard or an Orange bastard is a sectarian slur. Call it to someone in NI and you can be prosecuted. But again, we see the get out clause, the excuses being trotted out as to why we are different.
Being called a fenian bastard or an Orange bastard is a sectarian slur. Call it to someone in NI and you can be prosecuted. But again, we see the get out clause, the excuses being trotted out as to why we are different.
thankyou for at least attempting an answer.
I don't know what it is with you Huns, forever trying to lump apples and oranges in together and then trying to treat them the same.
The only answer is to treat each issue on its individual merits.
You accept the Orange Order is a bigoted organisation. well this bigoted organisation has a long association with Rangers. correct?
If you accept that the bigoted and sectarian orange order does not include all protestants, then you accept that there is a particular thing that differentiates these particular protestants from any other....correct? If that difference is a strict adherence to the principles of orangeism, then you take a look at what these principles are......promotion of the union and the promotion of the idea of protestant supremacy....now which football club best reflects those ideals?
The promotion of the union is a core political ideal of the OO...nothing at all to do with faith.
The OO is open to Protestants, to the exclusion of Catholics (as was a certain fitba club)...what faith is this bigoted against?
I don't know what it is with you Huns, forever trying to lump apples and oranges in together and then trying to treat them the same.
The only answer is to treat each issue on its individual merits.
You accept the Orange Order is a bigoted organisation. well this bigoted organisation has a long association with Rangers. correct?
If you accept that the bigoted and sectarian orange order does not include all protestants, then you accept that there is a particular thing that differentiates these particular protestants from any other....correct? If that difference is a strict adherence to the principles of orangeism, then you take a look at what these principles are......promotion of the union and the promotion of the idea of protestant supremacy....now which football club best reflects those ideals?
The promotion of the union is a core political ideal of the OO...nothing at all to do with faith.
The OO is open to Protestants, to the exclusion of Catholics (as was a certain fitba club)...what faith is this bigoted against?
Listen as I have said before it's rife on both sides I'm not a member of the OO or any other supposed organisation apart from Rangers, I'm a FOOTBALL FAN I've been called all sorts as I'm sure you have individual or collective it needs to stop as for the OO links to Rangers for that see IRA/Celtic..................do i believe every Celtic fan loves the IRA no it's just the ugly face of the Old Firm.
Now your argument falls apart right there, the Orange Order didn't exclude other religions, that's just something Rangers fans would like to believe.
Being called a Fenian bastard is sectarian because it plays upon a word for our ancestors, people who decided to fight against our oppressors, only Irish people can be called "Fenian bastards" it's a form of racism as well as a form of religious bigotry because Ireland was a Catholic country. Now "Orange bastard" refers to no religion, race or creed. A member of the protestant church isn't an Orange bastard, neither is a Dutchman. "Orange" is just your excuse for saying "but they do it too"
I'm glad you pointed that out I suggest you google that then and find out where it came from...............you might be shocked.
Oh and it was your mate Webel who said that OO didn't exclude other religions ooooppsss