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Johnson formally charged

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  1. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    This innocent until proven guilty thing isn't actually right though is it. That means Jack the Ripper, whoever he was, is an innocent chap. People who get off on technicalities are innocent. So on and so forth.

    Being found innocent or guilty by a jury doesn't actually change whether you have or have not committed a crime. Does "innocent until proven guilty" mean "guilty upon being proven guilty"? If so I feel for the people who wrongly go down for crimes they haven't committed.

    At some point common sense needs to come into it and not just what a jury have decided. That said I have no ****ing idea as to whether he's done it or not. I can't really imagine how evidence to suggest grooming has taken place can result in an innocent verdict. I doubt it's just her word against his at this point.
     
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  2. SAFCDRUM

    SAFCDRUM Well-Known Member

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    Leave them be. They are just crying into their executive hankies planning next seasons trip to Bristol City.
     
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  3. If you want "justice," Disco, see a priest.

    Whether you go to prison or not is down to whether or not 12 men/women think you are a scum-bag.
     
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    clockstander Well-Known Member

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    I have read enough of you posts mate to know, and my repost was in the similar vain lol. :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  5. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Stitched up imo.

    mind, it's probably Poyets fault for shouting, 'get in the box more'.
     
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  6. jdsafc

    jdsafc Well-Known Member

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    Was there not a maximum period of time we could have him on suspension though?
     
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  7. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Are you a hippy?

    I can't imagine the modern day hippy has as much fun, let's face it, the VW Camper is way too old to be a reliable motor home now, it'd just be constant trips to the garage nowadays.
     
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  8. Hippy girls are great if you are into hair-beads, multi-coloured toe-nails and massively hairy 70s-style bushes.
     
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  9. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Nobody saw the signs, according to one source, he turned up at your new shirt sponsor unveiling asking "Where's these Kidvests then"?
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Not for me, if they're packing timber I'm sure Billy will be interested.
     
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  11. Adam won't be intrested in hippy gilrs, by the sounds of things.
     
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  12. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Don't know fella.
     
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  13. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    I want nowt to do with any bird who has a fanny like Kevin Keegan's curly perm. <ok>
     
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  14. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I'm not saying I want justice mate.

    I'm simply saying throwing innocent until proven guilty around doesn't change whether he has or hasn't done it.
     
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  15. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    I would assume this is a fairly easy thing to prove you haven't done.

    He's done it mate, for sure.

    It just remains to be seen whether he knew he was doing it.
     
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  16. Billy Death

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    That sums it up for me like. <ok>
     
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  17. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    My point was though mate if they've got some facebook/text/whatsapp based evidence of grooming... He's done for!? Surely?

    Hard to disprove something that's right before your eyes. It's like an atheist meeting god, shaking his and and telling him "You don't exist."
     
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  18. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Grooming could just mean he was sex pesting her, no? It remains to be seen if his lawyers can convince the jury he thought she was old enough.

    Even if they do, I'd imagine his career is still royally ****ed. He'll never play again.

    If there's as much as one inference of her age he is doing serious bird.
     
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  19. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I can't imagine they'd take it to trial if there was nothing to suggest he knew her age.

    Maybe that's just me having too high an opinion of our legal system.
     
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  20. Commachio

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    ****ing hell, it gets worse.
     
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