The General Election

[John Cardew]

I'm not a politician mate, why would I come up with a solution to that?

Do you think I'd be sat here chatting to you if I could fix HMRC to make everybody happy?

Your daft theory that rich people will still be rich if you take half of their money won't ever wash with me, I'd be off from this ****hole in a shot if somebody like you ran the country.

But it's all well and good saying that the rich shouldn't be penalised but at least provide a viable alternative? Even just a vague idea. Because as far as I can think there isn't one and that's the problem.

If you are rich enough to be in the 50% tax bracket, then yes, you will still be rich no matter how much you are taxed, and if you disagree with that you must be way, way out of touch with the lower working class of this country...

 

[Blunham Mackem]

But intelligence is something we are born with, why should people be penalised for being less intelligent than others? Some are introverts, not everyone can "hold a room". DO these people deserve to have their lives made harder? Are outgoing, confident people more deserving of government support? Surely you can't think that.

People are penalised for being less intelligent. The in-bred aristocratics will be upset to hear that!

People are penalised for being less intelligent. Don't want to be harsh but that's just life mate. Even Carl Marx and Trotsky recognised that. If all the wealth in the world was distributed equally, Marx recognised that within a short period of time, there'd be rich and poor, as some would seek to self-benefit to the detriment of others.

And it's never occurred to me that confident people are more likely to get government support. That's a new lesson for me. When did being confident become a moral or economic crime?

Excuse my outburst, early finish straight in to the guinness.

 

[Tel (they/them)]

But it's all well and good saying that the rich shouldn't be penalised but at least provide a viable alternative? Even just a vague idea. Because as far as I can think there isn't one and that's the problem.

If you are rich enough to be in the 50% tax bracket, then yes, you will still be rich no matter how much you are taxed, and if you disagree with that you must be way, way out of touch with the lower working class of this country...

I'm not out of touch I just have an attitude that if I want something I'll get it and I won't let people moaning stop me getting there.

I've also stated on here that some rich people haven't earned their money, I don't support rich people mate I support successful people who work for and deserve success on their respective level.

Bankers should be bummed for every penny.

Use that as a basis for my tax revolution if you like, it's probably way too intricate for me to understand let alone explain!

 

[John Cardew]

I'm not out of touch I just have an attitude that if I want something I'll get it and I won't let people moaning stop me getting there.

I've also stated on here that some rich people haven't earned their money, I don't support rich people mate I support successful people who work for and deserve success on their respective level.

Bankers should be bummed for every penny.

Use that as a basis for my tax revolution if you like, it's probably way too intricate for me to understand let alone explain!

Highly Taxing the people who haven't earned their money and being reasonable with those who have is a great thought and one I'm sure every hard-working person would go along with pal. I just cannot fathom out any way in which it would be possible to put it into practice, it's so subjective!

 

[Commachio]

I'm not out of touch I just have an attitude that if I want something I'll get it and I won't let people moaning stop me getting there.

I've also stated on here that some rich people haven't earned their money, I don't support rich people mate I support successful people who work for and deserve success on their respective level.

Bankers should be bummed for every penny.

Use that as a basis for my tax revolution if you like, it's probably way too intricate for me to understand let alone explain!

Terry wants to bum bankers...fact...

 

[MrRAWhite]

Out of interest @MrRAWhite , you have said you are involved with the labour party. But surely as an individual, you can't agree with every single labour policy? Would you be willing to flag up any that you maybe don't go along with, or as an interested party do you see it as your duty to defend every single labour policy whether or not you personally agree with them yourself? Genuine q.

I would like to see Labour being tougher on immigration and being more proactive in taking political power away from the European Union and moving back to what it was meant for which is a collective trading block to rival the USA..

 

[MrRAWhite]

I keep hearing about these food banks. Genuine question. Where are they and does anyone know of anyone that uses them? The homeless might? Apparently they are widespread?

Used by almost 1000,000 people in the UK last year which is surely unacceptable in a so called rich civilised country....The problem lies with the fact that the richest one percent in the UK have as much wealth as much as the poorest fifty five percent..

 

[John Cardew]

I would like to see Labour being tougher on immigration and being more proactive in taking political power away from the European Union and moving back to what it was meant for which is a collective trading block to rival the USA..

Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't have judged you by the way if on principle you backed your party 100%. Just never spoken to anyone involved in politics such as yourself so wondered what the approach was.
Would you then favour a referendum on the EU?

Used by almost 1000,000 people in the UK last year which is surely unacceptable in a so called rich civilised country....The problem lies with the fact that the richest one percent in the UK have as much wealth as much as the poorest fifty five percent..

Agree with this, too.

 

[MrRAWhite]

Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't have judged you by the way if on principle you backed your party 100%. Just never spoken to anyone involved in politics such as yourself so wondered what the approach was.
Would you then favour a referendum on the EU?

Agree with this, too.

I firmly believe that leaving the EU would be disastrous for for our economy...However, I don't like the way that the principle of the European Union has gradually shifted from a trading partnership to a political union, which is something that I believe is wrong..

 

[John Cardew]

I firmly believe that leaving the EU would be disastrous for for our economy...However, I don't like the way that the principle of the European Union has gradually shifted from a trading partnership to a political union, which is something that I believe is wrong..

See I'm with you on that, I think we're better off in the EU but I hate how we've becme almost an EU state with no political power. Don't know what the solution is though...

 

[MrRAWhite]

See I'm with you on that, I think we're better off in the EU but I hate how we've becme almost an EU state with no political power. Don't know what the solution is though...

The solution for me is that an elected government has to stand up against the political power of the EU. It could be a rough ride with a lot of Mexican stand offs on the way. But the fact is that the EU need us as much as we need them, and I reckon that the German people and particularly the French people would also like to see political power given back to nation states.

 

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Just had the Labour councillor round canvassing and I must say I was very impressed with his parties plans to build more schools, increase spending on the elderly, and improve relations with the community.

At least that's what I think his translator said.

 

[Blunham Mackem]

I would like to see Labour being tougher on immigration and being more proactive in taking political power away from the European Union and moving back to what it was meant for which is a collective trading block to rival the USA..

Just a shame that Labour didn't have that attitude when they opened the immigrant floodgates back in the early 2000's RAW, as Mandelson confessed years later, their idea, being that low paid manual immigrants would be natural labour supporters in the coming years.

But hey, let's blame the Tories for the problems now....

 

[malagamackem]

I would also like an answer to a question, if possible by someone who knows about politics . If UKIP got their wish to withdraw from the EU would that then mean that every Briton currently living abroad would then become an illegal immigrant and have to come back?

As an expat who advises other expats its a f**k of a good question. I f we did pull out of the EU then according to the EU directives we would all have to apply for Visas

 

[MrRAWhite]

Just a shame that Labour didn't have that attitude when they opened the immigrant floodgates back in the early 2000's RAW, as Mandelson confessed years later, their idea, being that low paid manual immigrants would be natural labour supporters in the coming years.

But hey, let's blame the Tories for the problems now....

Immigration has got no better during the Tory years though has it despite all their promises....
The problem in my opinion is not immigration per se, but immigration without integration which is resulting in separate and divided communities throughout the land. This needs to be addressed urgently, and I would start by overturning the Tory policy of creating schools that are independent from the state, which in reality means religion sponsored schools, that in turn creates separatism and radicalisation from a young age..

 

[malagamackem]

Whilst I won't be voting Tory, there are some people who would seemingly want us to carry on spending the way we have been for the last few decades. Absolute insanity. Cuts are essential and if they don't come from the NHS they will come from somewhere else.

So John

Who will you be voting for? Labour will spend needlessly to be popular. The Tories will underspend to demonstrate their prudence! UKIP and the SNP and Lib Dems don't have a clue.

You have to nail your colours to something. Tories for me this time round as I think Miliband is thick as pigs poo and has sold his soul to the unions

What say you...apart from scrap nuclear weapons and colt 45s

 

[malagamackem]

Immigration has got no better during the Tory years though has it despite all their promises....
The problem in my opinion is not immigration per se, but immigration without integration which is resulting in separate and divided communities throughout the land. This needs to be addressed urgently, and I would start by overturning the Tory policy of creating schools that are independent from the state, which in reality means religion sponsored schools, that in turn creates separatism and radicalisation from a young age..

agree with your view, differ with the solution but have a like from me RAW

 

[John Cardew]

So John

Who will you be voting for? Labour will spend needlessly to be popular. The Tories will understand to demonstrate their prudence! UKIP and the SNP and Lib Dems don't have a clue.

You have to nail your colours to something. Tories for me this time round as I think Miliband is thick as pigs poo and has sold his soul to the unions

What say you...apart from scrap nuclear weapons and colt 45s

As I stated earlier in the thread, my constituency is a safe labour seat. My vote is irrelevant. I will therefore be voting UKIP. This is because I believe UKIP will come closest to Labour and the Tories, and the closer they come, hopefully the more the 2 big parties will realise that they need to shake things up or within a few elections they will be caught. I don't support UKIP by any stretch of the imagination but I want to see the main parties truly worried, then we might see a bit more honesty and common sense coming from them. Every vote for UKIP could count in that regard, even if it doesn't translate into seats, so I will feel as though my vote is at least doing SOMETHING.

If I were in a constituency that could go either way, I'd find it very hard to pick between labour and tory. I'm leaning slightly more to labour as Miliband has impressed me in these last few weeks, but I really would find it hard to vote for either of them.

EDIT: I'm not really sure if the above makes sense,I've had a couple and seem to be rambling. I know what I'm trying to say in my own head though

 

[MrRAWhite]

So John

Who will you be voting for? Labour will spend needlessly to be popular. The Tories will underspend to demonstrate their prudence! UKIP and the SNP and Lib Dems don't have a clue.

You have to nail your colours to something. Tories for me this time round as I think Miliband is thick as pigs poo and has sold his soul to the unions

What say you...apart from scrap nuclear weapons and colt 45s

Is this the same Ed Miliband who has cut the union influence on the Labour Party dramatically?

 

[John Cardew]

Immigration has got no better during the Tory years though has it despite all their promises....
The problem in my opinion is not immigration per se, but immigration without integration which is resulting in separate and divided communities throughout the land. This needs to be addressed urgently, and I would start by overturning the Tory policy of creating schools that are independent from the state, which in reality means religion sponsored schools, that in turn creates separatism and radicalisation from a young age..

Excellent post. Some of the (and let's be fair, it's mostly muslim) one-religion only zones that we're finding in areas of the UK is causing huge problems. Immigrants and intolerance are at an all time high at the minute and that is largely due to this separatism and lack of integration. I believe immigration needs to be reduced, as does Ed Miliband, but you are right in saying that it is just as important, if not moreso, that we get immigrants integrating fully into our society and not forming their own communities.