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And we were on course to get the result we needed against Chelsea but for Gerrards slip. Clearly that was Brod's fault lol
The Brendan Rodgers / Replacement thread
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And we were on course to get the result we needed against Chelsea but for Gerrards slip. Clearly that was Brod's fault lol
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Slip wasn't Rodgers's fault.
But having the centre backs and Gerrard that high up, with zero cover with HT approaching certainly is Rodgers's fault - it merely highlights that Rodgers wanted the win (understandably) but couldn't let it go and just play for a boring draw which Mourinho put on a plate for us, and would have put us on course for the title.
^ This. Everyone and their dog knew that Jose would park the bus. A draw would have left us in a commanding position to win the league.....so we change absolutely nothing and leave our defence wide open to a counter attack with just one slip from a midfielder. It's not as though our defence had been that great and this was a bit of a shock either. It was naivety of the highest order....something BR exhibits continually imo.
Exactly right. It was tactical naivety at best and at worst it was an egotistical desire to beat his old gaffer on route to the title, which made him put the sensible pragmatic approach to one side.
Gerrard's slip shouldn't have mattered as there should have been 2 centre backs 8-10 yards behind him covering him.
If the roles had been reversed and it was Mourinho who needed a point at home to Liverpool, there's no way the same scenario would have ever happened.
The bottom line was Chelsea came not to lose and we should have accomodated them, by playing not to lose. I think it was down to experience as far as Rodgers was concerned. Chelsea were\are known to do what they did and win, did it again against United last week. "we're not gonna lose but if you **** just once up we are gonna win".
Chelsea would have been content with a point from that game and we'd still have had the title race in our own hands, that meant we would have not gone gung ho at Palace trying to score 10 goals, being 3 up it would have been close up shop time. Two more wins and the PL landed.
Ah well
Can't agree, we beat City and destroyed Arsenal beat united beat spurs beat almost everyone and played them off the park at Anfield and that is why Rodgers thought we could do it to Chelsea, it was down to experience , or lack of it imo, first title race, Jose showed the proper approach last week, seal the deal forget the fancy stuff, and that's with a bigger lead than we had too.
He fell into the same trap as van Gaal did last week, and van Gaal is not naive. Chelsea through two or three poor passes passed up two or three great opportunities to put hazard through on De Gea in miles of space in that first half against United, it could have been worse for United than 1 0
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Whilst I don't think Rodgers can/will take us much further without a world class player handed to him on a plate (he can't find them himself), I'm not sure if Klopp is that man either given how poorly they've been since losing two of their top players (just like we did).
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Manager with 5th most expensive squad in the league takes team to 5th place [HASHTAG]#fraud[/HASHTAG]
Manager with 1st most expensive squad in the league takes team to 3rd place [HASHTAG]#tacticalgenius[/HASHTAG]
Manager with 7th most expensive squad in the league takes team to 12th place [HASHTAG]#butwontheliverpooldidntwinatrophyeithercup[/HASHTAG]
Manager with 5th most expensive squad in the league takes team to 5th place [HASHTAG]#fraud[/HASHTAG]
Manager with 1st most expensive squad in the league takes team to 3rd place [HASHTAG]#tacticalgenius[/HASHTAG]
Manager with 7th most expensive squad in the league takes team to 12th place [HASHTAG]#butwontheliverpooldidntwinatrophyeithercup[/HASHTAG]
Manager's success in other league does not guarantee success in the premiership (especially with limited budget)
What swings it for me... in comparison to Klopp
1) We've the same issues now as after Rodgers' first season
2) Rodgers' influence on disastrous signings
3) Klopp's appeal to players - who wouldn't want to play for him despite this season?
4) Klopp's success with cheap + average players
1) We've the same issues now as after Rodgers' first season
2) Rodgers' influence on disastrous signings
3) Klopp's appeal to players - who wouldn't want to play for him despite this season?
4) Klopp's success with cheap + average players
Klopp did it in a **** league that if Bayern had an off season there was **** all standing in his way
Here we have billionaire-owned City, billionaire-owned Chelsea, and billion-in-debt Utd to compete with
Good point. Plus Klopp had very good players, once Bayern stripped those away, where was Klopp's brilliance in finding gems and competing last summer and this season?
You can be as good as you like as a manager, but too much credit for what players can do in most cases, is given to the manager. Klopp spent a lot of his time around the relegation spots this season before climbing out, imagine the opinions on Brod on here had we been in and around Everton this season, let alone the opinion when we are 5th.
Klopp struggles this year in a **** league he's BRILLIANT, Brod misses out on 4th with a about 7 games to go in a much more difficult league. he's CRAP.
Don't think I'm saying he's brilliant or anything...
You can't take away his success. Dortmund were a great side and very competitive in Europe. His influence on Goetze, Lewandowski etc was remarkable.
Just don't know if Rodgers will take us the step on we need. He can't attract the players we need. Wouldn't be a disaster if he stayed but it wouldn't be a coup to keep him.
You can't take away his success. Dortmund were a great side and very competitive in Europe. His influence on Goetze, Lewandowski etc was remarkable.
Just don't know if Rodgers will take us the step on we need. He can't attract the players we need. Wouldn't be a disaster if he stayed but it wouldn't be a coup to keep him.
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