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Who is going to finish fith??

  • Liverpool?

    Votes: 6 46.2%

  • Tottenham?

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Southampton

    Votes: 6 46.2%

  • Who is going to come fifth

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
Tobes said:
So the PL is a one horse race is it?

Really?

As I could have sworn the horse in question finished 7th last season and has only won the thing twice in 5 years - soon to be 6...

Oh dear, talk about hoisted by your own petard <laugh>
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Bet Sisu wishes it was 2000 again. He would be right then.


Disclaimer - The year 2000 was a difficult year for all theorists. Y2K was real and was only covered up. I mean no offence to theorists by making this post.
 
Would you just look at these two. It's like WWE but with [HASHTAG]#meltdowns[/HASHTAG]. And just like WWE you stopped tagging each other and both of you are now in the ring with chairs<laugh>

Couldn't make this **** up <laugh>
 
Sisu said:
Would you just look at these two. It's like WWE but with [HASHTAG]#meltdowns[/HASHTAG]. And just like WWE you stopped tagging each other and both of you are now in the ring with chairs<laugh>

Couldn't make this **** up <laugh>
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Wwe isnt real you dingbat.


Wait....


Just like the world around us!!

*twilight zone theme*
 
I am in the ****ed up position of agreeing with UiR 100%.
La Liga is a piece of **** league and isnt worth anyones time.
I watch El Classico and the Madrid derby, anything else is League One opposition and completely ****e.

Didn't Real finish as runners up with 92 points one year? <laugh>
Real competitive!
 
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Sisu said:
Would you just look at these two. It's like WWE but with [HASHTAG]#meltdowns[/HASHTAG]. And just like WWE you stopped tagging each other and both of you are now in the ring with chairs<laugh>

Couldn't make this **** up <laugh>
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You're not wrong.

Some spanner (sorry pair of spanners, only 1 has had the sense to pipe down) trying to argue that La Liga is more competitive than the EPL in the PL era is beyond ****ing belief.
 
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Bodanki said:
I am in the ****ed up position of agreeing with UiR 100%.
La Liga is a piece of **** league and isnt worth anyones time.
I watch El Classico and the Madrid derby, anything else is League One opposition and completely ****e.

Didn't Real finish as runners up with 92 points one year? <laugh>
Real competitive!
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That's not the point of debate, the point of debate was competitiveness of the leagues PL or La Liga since 1992.
The numbers don't lie. What you "think" of either league has no place in this debate.

There is just no arugment for the PL being more competitive from 1992 until today.

Just because recent PL history has had United Chelsea and City, that makes not a job of difference to the overall stats since 1992.

La Liga has currently 3 teams competing for the title, last year was 3, PL last year was two and this season 1 since new years

Go figure


[HASHTAG]#numbersdontlie[/HASHTAG]
 
2012
1 Real Madrid 100 Points
2 Barcelona 91 Points
3 Valencia 61 Points

2011
1 Barcelona 96 Points
2 Real Madrid 92 points
3 Valencia 71 Points

Real competitive.
When has the PL ever had a 30 point gap between 2nd and 3rd?


Also, El Classico have broken the 100 point barrier on more than one occassion.
When has an English team ever done that in a 22 team league let alone a 20 man one.
 
Bodanki said:
2012
1 Real Madrid 100 Points
2 Barcelona 91 Points
3 Valencia 61 Points

2011
1 Barcelona 96 Points
2 Real Madrid 92 points
3 Valencia 71 Points

Real competitive.
When has the PL ever had a 30 point gap between 2nd and 3rd?
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So we're now talking points from 2012 to assess which league has been more competitive over the last 23 years? <doh> How about posting the 1st and 2nd league points from many of United's title wins in the 90s? not even sure on the points and it doesn't matter.

When one league has a 13 titles winner and the nearest is 3.. compared to 10 then 7. only someone wanting to believe different will say the 13 3 is more competitive <laugh>
 
Sisu said:
That's not the point of debate, the point of debate was competitiveness of the leagues PL or La Liga since 1992.
The numbers don't lie. What you "think" of either league has no place in this debate.

There is just no arugment for the PL being more competitive from 1992 until today.

Just because recent PL history has had United Chelsea and City, that makes not a job of difference to the overall stats since 1992.

La Liga has currently 3 teams competing for the title, last year was 3, PL last year was two and this season 1 since new years

Go figure


[HASHTAG]#numbersdontlie[/HASHTAG]
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Had you said, one side has dominated the PL more than any one side in La Liga but the PL is more competitive due to the spread of titles....

You woudnt have made yourself look a fool.
 
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Sisu said:
So we're now talking points from 2012 to assess which league has been more competitive over the last 23 years? <doh> How about posting the 1st and 2nd league points from many of United's title wins?
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Well 2012 happened in the last 23 years. so yes you have to factor it in <doh>
 
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England we be competitive again when FA put their house in order. There are many foreign players playing in Spain
but majority of their players are Spanish. Are there no good players in England either for export or home?
 
It seems when people's wrong assumtpion that the PL is more competitive is challenged they will go to lengths to try show what they believed was right even though it was clearly wrong.

any way you put the numbers La Liga has been more competitive than the PL.

PL one team has more than 50% of titles since 1992
La Liga one team has less than 50% of titles since 1992.

The gap between first and second in la Liga is 3 over 23 years
The gap between first and second in the PL is 10 over 23 years

people really do delude themselves into believing what they want to believe.

And all from people who don't actually watch La Liga <laugh>
 
Sisu said:
That's not the point of debate, the point of debate was competitiveness of the leagues PL or La Liga since 1992.
The numbers don't lie. What you "think" of either league has no place in this debate.

There is just no arugment for the PL being more competitive from 1992 until today.

Just because recent PL history has had United Chelsea and City, that makes not a job of difference to the overall stats since 1992.

La Liga has currently 3 teams competing for the title, last year was 3, PL last year was two and this season 1 since new years

Go figure


[HASHTAG]#numbersdontlie[/HASHTAG]
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Only there is and it's been spelt out to you in words of one syllable.

Our top division has always been more competitive than Spain and that didn't end in 1992 ffs.

The fact that United had their best ever spell at the start of the PL era, doesn't change that simple fact. They'd gone over a quarter of a ****ing century before lifting it in '93, which follows an era when you lot were dominant, but equally you've now gone the same period without winning it.

Spain has always been about the big 2, same as the sweaty league. Stop digging ffs <laugh>
 
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Tobes said:
Only there is and it's been spelt out to you in words of one syllable.

Our top division has always been more competitive than Spain and that didn't end in 1992 ffs.

The fact that United had their best ever spell at the start of the PL era, doesn't change that simple fact. They'd gone over a quarter of a ****ing century before lifting it in '93, which follows an era when you lot were dominant, but equally you've now gone the same period without winning it.

Spain has always been about the big 2, same as the sweaty league. Stop digging ffs <laugh>
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Sisu. The one Liverpool fan who thinks football started in 1992.

Notice hes been avoiding my SPL question.
 
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Sisu said:
It seems when people's wrong assumtpion that the PL is more competitive is challenged they will go to lengths to try show what they believed was right even though it was clearly wrong.

any way you put the numbers La Liga has been more competitive than the PL.

PL one team has more than 50% of titles since 1992
La Liga one team has less than 50% of titles since 1992.

The gap between first and second in la Liga is 3 over 23 years
The gap between first and second in the PL is 10 over 23 years

people really do delude themselves into believing what they want to believe.

And all from people who don't actually watch La Liga <laugh>
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The PL is more competitive than La Liga - present tense = fact

Was it more comeptitive in the mid 90's? - past tense - Maybe not.

Your chosen timeframe and the daft blanket statement that accompanied it was wrong, as the numbers and simple common ****ing sense should tell you.
 
Also, dominance in England has been established and broken many times.
In Spain, no one will EVER break the El Classico dominance, so not only is it currently not as competitive, but it is extremely unlikely to become more competitive in the future.
 
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