Off Topic mafia 5: game thread

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How to say this without coming across as too defensive...



I'M INNOCENT

Having said that I do find it interesting that you of everyone have suggested me. Quite popular was you with voting early on. With the hacked paper the NUFC version of the game didn't have any hacking and so not unnaturally I along with others thought you were the obvious choice. Biscan then said dodgy paper and I changed my vote waiting to see what developed. But it seems agreed that the hack was poorly done and might just be the double bluff. Mafia say it's SWARBS in paper but do it badly so that it is noticed. Quite a clever way to get one of your own out of the limelight especially if people on this board are used to hacking papers.

My suspicions now fall on you and Biscan and depending on tomorrows paper and who if anyone dies tonight I would be suggesting you and Biscan as serious contenders for a good lynching.

Can I ask why suspicious of me? Not being overly defensive, just interested to hear people's view on why to see if there's a logical explanation I can give <ok>
 
For tomorrows tactic i would wait for the newspaper. If we are lucky the journalist would have been following one of the crooks and we can jump on them.

As for tonight, if RHC really is the new role which can only be the double vote, i say we put 3 votes on RHC and 1 vote for whoever else we suspect (or we can keep going so its two more) and RHC will be able to tip the balance to make it 50/50.

If three votes to one then surely (stop calling me Shirley) that would split the vote and it would just be a coin toss as to who gets lynched? It would need to be three to two votes for RHC to affect the vote in his favour assuming we aren't counting RHC's vote in the 3:2.
 
If three votes to one then surely (stop calling me Shirley) that would split the vote and it would just be a coin toss as to who gets lynched? It would need to be three to two votes for RHC to affect the vote in his favour assuming we aren't counting RHC's vote in the 3:2.

I guess you could do it two ways. If you make it 3:2 and RHC is guilty, i guess it would be 50/50 between him and the other person we chose. If he got off he could claim that it was the double vote influence and we would rule him townie even if he survived because it was a coin flip (only the true double vote counter could out him but that would be hard for him to prove).

If it was 3:1, then he has an opportunity to save himself and theres a 50/50 chance he is a townie. I choose this one seeing as we're planning on lynching him tonight, at least this gives him a good chance to save himself.
 
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Can I ask why suspicious of me? Not being overly defensive, just interested to hear people's view on why to see if there's a logical explanation I can give <ok>

I think (I'm not re-reading all 48 pages) that you were quite active in the early part and trying to direct people as to how we should proceed as if you already had a plan agreed. Then you were quick on the up take on the paper being hacked ( probably my main suspicion) almost as if you were expecting it. Saying it looked suspicious and then when no-one had said anything substantive about the hacking you then elaborated on what looked hacked again as if leading everyone into the promised land. Then SWARBS referring to you when I already had reservations about SWARBS intimating a possible connection between the two of you.

Or I might just be being paranoid...again.
 
Further point occurs and I may be missing something on the changed rules/roles but if RHC is the double voter how can he say Valley is under investigation as that isn't the double voters knowledge. Is it?
 
Further point occurs and I may be missing something on the changed rules/roles but if RHC is the double voter how can he say Valley is under investigation as that isn't the double voters knowledge. Is it?

Think the RHC is desperate. He knows his head is on the chopping block and will do anything to get out of it. Tbh i don't blame the poor bloke
 
Further point occurs and I may be missing something on the changed rules/roles but if RHC is the double voter how can he say Valley is under investigation as that isn't the double voters knowledge. Is it?

Rhc doesn't claim to be the double voter... He claims he's the cop. However the cop hasn't changes person... It was and always has been the same person since afc recruited them. After afc recruited then, he said he felt a lot more secure now, Which to me means it's someone that is active, ie it wasn't magic.

This is means that RHC couldn't have suddenly become the 2nd cop (now main cop) and if he's not the double voter must be lying to try save himself.
 
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RHC could in theory be the extra cop. If that was originally Magic then he would have been replaced by an innocent townie. Alternatively RHC could just be BSing to save his own skin.

Anyone else want to claim to be the extra cop? Would be a great service to the town, as if RHC isn't the cop then he is definitely Mafia.
 
I think (I'm not re-reading all 48 pages) that you were quite active in the early part and trying to direct people as to how we should proceed as if you already had a plan agreed. Then you were quick on the up take on the paper being hacked ( probably my main suspicion) almost as if you were expecting it. Saying it looked suspicious and then when no-one had said anything substantive about the hacking you then elaborated on what looked hacked again as if leading everyone into the promised land. Then SWARBS referring to you when I already had reservations about SWARBS intimating a possible connection between the two of you.

Or I might just be being paranoid...again.

I didn't suggest anyone first night and followed afc...

the he paper hack was bloody obvious, so many errors in comparison to the first but as no one else has spotted felt I had to say something because you and someone else had already believed it word for word and had voted for swarbs. I did say it could be a double bluff on swarbs but I thought that to be unlikely.

Only time ive pushed for anyone has been today and RHC which was actually started by others yeaterday.
 
Rhc doesn't claim to be the double voter... He claims he's the cop. However the cop hasn't changes person... It was and always has been the same person since afc recruited them. After afc recruited then, he said he felt a lot more secure now, Which to me means it's someone that is active, ie it wasn't magic.

This is means that RHC couldn't have suddenly become the 2nd cop (now main cop) and if he's not the double voter must be lying to try save himself.

Interesting... not sure what to think now
 
RHC could in theory be the extra cop. If that was originally Magic then he would have been replaced by an innocent townie. Alternatively RHC could just be BSing to save his own skin.

Anyone else want to claim to be the extra cop? Would be a great service to the town, as if RHC isn't the cop then he is definitely Mafia.

That's why I am suspicious of you. Why should the cop reveal himself to then be an obvious next target for the Mafia.
 
RHC could in theory be the extra cop. If that was originally Magic then he would have been replaced by an innocent townie. Alternatively RHC could just be BSing to save his own skin.

Anyone else want to claim to be the extra cop? Would be a great service to the town, as if RHC isn't the cop then he is definitely Mafia.

No, journalist should not reveal themselves! If RHC is Mafia and other reveals themselves then they come an obvious target to kill and we lose or main guy.


I mentioned in post a minute ago, afc said e felt more secure once he appointed a 2nd cop, to me suggesting it wasn't magic and it was someone more active.
 
That's why I am suspicious of you. Why should the cop reveal himself to then be an obvious next target for the Mafia.

Doesn't follow. How does being suspicious of me have anything to do with how RHC is behaving?

Looks like someone is trying to distract from my accusation by throwing some mud back to see if anything sticks...
 
Doesn't follow. How does being suspicious of me have anything to do with how RHC is behaving?

Looks like someone is trying to distract from my accusation by throwing some mud back to see if anything sticks...

you suggesting the journalist should reveal themselves if a bit dodgy....
 
Doesn't follow. How does being suspicious of me have anything to do with how RHC is behaving?

Looks like someone is trying to distract from my accusation by throwing some mud back to see if anything sticks...

It's got absolutely nothing to do with RHC. You may recall I instigated this latest "what do we do next after RHC" conversation. You were a suspicion for tomorrow. Lets try to stick to the facts. <cheers>
 
you suggesting the journalist should reveal themselves if a bit dodgy....

Didn't suggest the journo, I suggested the extra cop.

Ultimately the aim is for the town to win. If there's a cop out there, his aim is to find the Mafia.

RHC is claiming to be the extra cop, therefore he is either telling the truth or he is Mafia. If the extra cop reveals themselves, they kill a Mafia which is a net benefit to the town imo. Even if the extra cop was killed by the Mafia tomorrow, his information would kill a Mafia today and he could reveal his investigation results, thus giving the town lots of valuable info.

Like in the last game, I think there's a point in the game at which the town no longer benefits when people with roles keep them secret. I think we may now be reaching that stage, particularly now RHC has made his claim.
 
Didn't suggest the journo, I suggested the extra cop.

Ultimately the aim is for the town to win. If there's a cop out there, his aim is to find the Mafia.

RHC is claiming to be the extra cop, therefore he is either telling the truth or he is Mafia. If the extra cop reveals themselves, they kill a Mafia which is a net benefit to the town imo. Even if the extra cop was killed by the Mafia tomorrow, his information would kill a Mafia today and he could reveal his investigation results, thus giving the town lots of valuable info.

Like in the last game, I think there's a point in the game at which the town no longer benefits when people with roles keep them secret. I think we may now be reaching that stage, particularly now RHC has made his claim.

Sorry I meant cop not journalist.

Or or as were 90% sure RHC is a lying french loving badger lover that we lynch him and let the cop remain hidden tonight this avoiding being hit by Mafia and were in an even stronger position.
 
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