Off Topic SKY WILL HAND OVER CUSTOMER DATA IN MOVIE PIRACY CASE

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Dunno if it's been posted already, but this might be useful:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...trolling-not-enough-to-stop-it-entirely.shtml

High Court's reaction to other similar trolls basically saying most of these types of letters violate several laws and codes of practice, and are prejudicial to the ability of the company to actually get any cash out of you.

Personally luv, I would wait and see what happens. If the company contacts you, then write back to them after a week or so, deny that you or anyone else in your household downloaded anything illegal, say you have contacted CAB and spoken to your lawyer and that you have been advised not to respond to their request. Simply stating that you have engaged a lawyer is likely to get them to back off, as if they try to sue you and don't win then they will be stuck with your legal costs as well as theirs.

Don't try to engage in dialogue with them, basically tell them you are innocent and to either take you to court or **** off. They will **** off, pretty much guaranteed.
 
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Swarbs said:
Dunno if it's been posted already, but this might be useful:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...trolling-not-enough-to-stop-it-entirely.shtml

High Court's reaction to other similar trolls basically saying most of these types of letters violate several laws and codes of practice, and are prejudicial to the ability of the company to actually get any cash out of you.

Personally luv, I would wait and see what happens. If the company contacts you, then write back to them after a week or so, deny that you or anyone else in your household downloaded anything illegal, say you have contacted CAB and spoken to your lawyer and that you have been advised not to respond to their request. Simply stating that you have engaged a lawyer is likely to get them to back off, as if they try to sue you and don't win then they will be stuck with your legal costs as well as theirs.

Don't try to engage in dialogue with them, basically tell them you are innocent and to either take you to court or **** off. They will **** off, pretty much guaranteed.
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This.....
 
luvgonzo said:
I agree and that's why I use Lidl because the ****ers at Tesco and Asda have been ripping us off for years and now they are feeling the strain. I can honestly say that if the prices are reasonable then I'll pay and maybe now that they are I should toe the line.

The problem is the more people like me they get the more power they have and the prices will start to rise again, you can't beat the man eh?
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Aldi and Lidl may be good news for shoppers, but they keep their prices down by shafting the producers, so they're not quite the retail heroes we wish they were.
The milk industry, for one, is being properly screwed by the ongoing price war which sees the cheap retailers not even paying the production value of the product in many cases.
 
saintanton said:
Aldi and Lidl may be good news for shoppers, but they keep their prices down by shafting the producers, so they're not quite the retail heroes we wish they were.
The milk industry, for one, is being properly screwed by the ongoing price war which sees the cheap retailers not even paying the production value of the product in many cases.
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You could say exactly the same for Amazon! Millions if not billions of people use Amazon yet they screwed the system when it came to taxes. However, people love Amazon!
 
saintanton said:
Aldi and Lidl may be good news for shoppers, but they keep their prices down by shafting the producers, so they're not quite the retail heroes we wish they were.
The milk industry, for one, is being properly screwed by the ongoing price war which sees the cheap retailers not even paying the production value of the product in many cases.
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To be fair, isn't that all supermarkets though and not just the discounters?
 
saintanton said:
Aldi and Lidl may be good news for shoppers, but they keep their prices down by shafting the producers, so they're not quite the retail heroes we wish they were.
The milk industry, for one, is being properly screwed by the ongoing price war which sees the cheap retailers not even paying the production value of the product in many cases.
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They are all shafting producers mate
 
Gerrez said:
You could say exactly the same for Amazon! Millions if not billions of people use Amazon yet they screwed the system when it came to taxes. However, people love Amazon!
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I remember during the parliamentary questioning they faced, one of the questioners said that he was a satisified customer of Amazon, but noted that the books he bought from Amazon were much cheaper than in his local bookstore. He then saifd that they were looking to level the playing field between the two. buying his books from the local bookstore obviously hadn't occured to him as being an alternative.
 
Nozzer said:
To be fair, isn't that all supermarkets though and not just the discounters?
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It seems fairly obvious that those who charge less will be paying less, doesn't it? Also, it is their low prices that instigate the price-war in the first place.
I'm not passing judgement here, merely pointing out that the discount supermarkets might not be the saints they're made out to be-or that all of us using them would wish them to be.
A friend of mine is doing a degree in environmental studies, and her research has shown that, of the major supermarkets, Lidl and Aldi are the worst when it comes to paying their suppliers, and Big Bad Tesco is one of the best.
I realise this isn't popular information to most of us, but I'm just passing on something her academic research (rather than rumour) has brought to my attention.
 
saintanton said:
It seems fairly obvious that those who charge less will be paying less, doesn't it? Also, it is their low prices that instigate the price-war in the first place.
I'm not passing judgement here, merely pointing out that the discount supermarkets might not be the saints they're made out to be-or that all of us using them would wish them to be.
A friend of mine is doing a degree in environmental studies, and her research has shown that, of the major supermarkets, Lidl and Aldi are the worst when it comes to paying their suppliers, and Big Bad Tesco is one of the best.
I realise this isn't popular information to most of us, but I'm just passing on something her academic research (rather than rumour) has brought to my attention.
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I wasn't trying to defend them (Tesco is generally my supermarket of choice in the UK), just pointing out that, as far I as was/am aware, all the supermarkets do this. And the price competition between the supermarkets was intense before the discounters got traction in the market.

While they should be paying less (unless they're just accepting thinner margins, but the margins in the area tend to be small already), this need not necessarily come from the producer prices, e.g. lower rents by having the supermarkets in less prominent places or having more compact shops, paying lower wages etc. That said, one way that they cut prices is by only having one or two supplier per product and negotiating huge volume discounts, which does lead to lower margins (but higher volumes) for the producers.
 
Nozzer said:
I wasn't trying to defend them (Tesco is generally my supermarket of choice in the UK), just pointing out that, as far I as was/am aware, all the supermarkets do this. And the price competition between the supermarkets was intense before the discounters got traction in the market.

While they should be paying less (unless they're just accepting thinner margins, but the margins in the area tend to be small already), this need not necessarily come from the producer prices, e.g. lower rents by having the supermarkets in less prominent places or having more compact shops, paying lower wages etc. That said, one way that they cut prices is by only having one or two supplier per product and negotiating huge volume discounts, which does lead to lower margins (but higher volumes) for the producers.
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I can only say what I have already, I can't offer more. It's unlikely to change anyone's habits, and anyone who doesn't like it will just think a way round it anyway.
Besides, it's a derail, so I'll drop it.

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Back on topic.
I don't know if this has been posted already, but it might be of some interest.

http://torrentfreak.com/static/The-Speculative-Invoicing-Handbook.pdf
 
hehe was wondering how we got from Sky giving up customer info to a third party to a conversation on Lidl bulk buying from producers <laugh>
 
Chaps, I use Katproxy and kickass proxy (or would do, if I did such things) and download to qbittorrent. I'm with Virgin. Am I/would I be secure, as some of you keep mentioning /secure' sites?
 
luvgonzo said:
The UK's second largest ISP is about to hand over the personal details of customers to a company known for demanding cash from alleged file-sharers. Sky Broadband says it will hand over the names and addresses of subscribers to TCYK LLC and warns customers that the movie company will probably ask for compensation.

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Any regular reader of these pages will be familiar with the term “copyright troll”. These companies have made a business model out of monitoring file-sharing networks for alleged copyright infringements, tracking down alleged offenders and then demanding hard cash to make supposed lawsuits go away.


https://torrentfreak.com/sky-will-hand-over-customer-data-in-movie-piracy-case-150310/

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...stomer-details-with-movie-piracy-lawyers.html
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You cock, what the bloody hell you doing silly things like this for?









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My sis and brother in law got done for music, they got a letter saying we will take you to court and they pai nearly £ 300 I think so that didnt happen

He still does music + movies though. He's far more techinically minded than me so may have done something to hide IP like mentioned before. I dont stream anything bar Redtube, Youtube and I player and thats about it really
 
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