Off Topic Hull from the air

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BrisbaneTiger said:
Just goes to show that all sides are as bad as each other when it comes to desecrating countries heritages. We look at countries in eastern europe and wonder how they can ruin cities like that yet we have done the same to others.
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Yes it was nasty of us to bomb the Germans back.

The only reason they didn't flatten our cities was they designed the Luftwaffe to,support the ground forces and didn't build heavy, four engined bombers. If they had then things would have been different. The Germans did far worse to Warsaw, the most destroyed city in the war (I'll bet most people don't know the second most damaged) Leningrad and Stalingrad with artillery.
 
MusingTiger said:
I must say, the old Queen's Dock looks much more majestic than the Gardens there now, which could do with a good bit of TLC. Would have been very nice if that area was also turned into a Marina.
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I was thinking precisely the same. Flats, restaurants and bars overlooking those docks now, if nicely maintained, would be a brilliant city centre feature. What a shame.
 
Castro's Coffin said:
Well, technically, we declared war on them.
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Now you're just confusing people.

Obviously war's all about the goodies and the baddies...

Coincidentally, I'm sat watching The World at War as I read this thread.

Can't tell you how many times I've seen it. But I'd suggest it as a starting point for a few in here to educate themselves.
 
Hull said:
Now you're just confusing people.

Obviously war's all about the goodies and the baddies...

Coincidentally, I'm sat watching The World at War as I read this thread.

Can't tell you how many times I've seen it. But I'd suggest it as a starting point for a few in here to educate themselves.
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i'd point people to the work of Sir John Keegan -
 
originallambrettaman said:
A mere flesh wound.

80,000 died in one minute in Hiroshima.
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Did the Japanese bomb us in WW2? That was the subject. In any case 80,000 didn't die in one minute. There were that many over the next few months. A moot point for those affected of course. If 45,000 was a flesh wound what was 1,200?
 
Castro's Coffin said:
Did the Japanese bomb us in WW2? That was the subject. In any case 80,000 didn't die in one minute. There were that many over the next few months. A moot point for those affected of course. If 45,000 was a flesh wound what was 1,200?
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80,000 dies instantly, the death toll rose too somewhere between 90-165,000 over the following year.

And they did bomb us, they bombed my Granddad from Greatfield(though he was in Burma at the time).
 
We declared war on Germany because they invaded Poland with whom France and UK had a pact with.
Germany was given money to rebuild but we had to repay loans to USA - that seemed unfair.
Fairness doesn't seem to matter though. Look at what Greece has spent on itself and now expects to be forgiven the money it borrowed. Look at how Russia is allowed to invade Georgia and Ukraine.
 
petersaxton said:
We declared war on Germany because they invaded Poland with whom France and UK had a pact with.
Germany was given money to rebuild but we had to repay loans to USA - that seemed unfair.
Fairness doesn't seem to matter though. Look at what Greece has spent on itself and now expects to be forgiven the money it borrowed. Look at how Russia is allowed to invade Georgia and Ukraine.
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Actually we were given more in Marshall Aid than either Germany or France. We just didn't spend it as wisely. We did have a Labour Government so that is no surprise.
The USSR, the Nazis allies at the time, also invaded Poland but we didn't declare war on them.
 
WhittlingStick said:
The Council and planners destroyed far more of our cities architecture than the German war effort ever managed .
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No axe to grind here WS but I have heard this comment many times but can I have some examples of deliberate council vandalism or were demolitions for some reason, maybe even the ubiquitous health & safety lark? I'm just curious.
 
C'mon ref said:
No axe to grind here WS but I have heard this comment many times but can I have some examples of deliberate council vandalism or were demolitions for some reason, maybe even the ubiquitous health & safety lark? I'm just curious.
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There's hundreds of them, but just as one current example, they're allowing this building to be demolished, to be replaced by a block of flats...

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originallambrettaman said:
80,000 dies instantly, the death toll rose too somewhere between 90-165,000 over the following year.

And they did bomb us, they bombed my Granddad from Greatfield(though he was in Burma at the time).
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I was referring to Hull. 60-80,000 was the figure for Hiroshima.

40,000'was the Nagasaki figure.

The first time most Japanese had heard Emperor Hirohito's voice was when he broadcast after the second bomb. A lot didn't realise they had surrendered which wasn't surprising as he said " The war has taken a turn which is not necessarily to our advantage."

TheJapanese have never apologised or admitted guilt. 20 million died in China. They carried out live vivisections on prisoners. Talking of damaged cities, the most damaged city in the war after Warsaw was Djakarta which the Japanese virtually levelled.

I once knew a lady who lived on OPE had a detestation of all things Japanese. Couldn't understand it. Then someone told me if what the Japanese had done to her as a young girl and I did.
 
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