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Natural talent only gets you so far. Without the right coaching, management and support it will often be wasted.

Some of the worlds best youngsters went on to nothing. Others becames greats. Messi at barcelona. Any other club and he doesn't make it as a player for example.

 

Bet Bebe wishes he'd been just an underrated kid when utd signed him.

He'd be WPOTY now.

 

Did you seriously just suggest that C.Ronaldo and / or Messi wouldn't have made it as a footballer had they not taken the path they did...?

Where the **** is that quotes thread

 

You keep making big assertions about what people thought, said or did but never name them regarding Ronaldo prior to or after he signed for utd.

And who are these "worlds best youngsters that went on to win nothing"?

 

I guess you have forgotten Ronaldo at 18. He was nothing like the player you see today. A series of events alongside working under SAF helped make him who he is. The death of his dad for example. Trust and faith placed in him by United. Even after the world cup in 2006.

Even by his own admission, United played a massive part in the player he is.

 

You are aware Barcelona funded an expensive and long term treatment for Messi arent you? One that without would have meant he never played professionally. At least not anywhere near the level he is at today.

 

Stop trying to back track. wouldn't have made it #classic

 

What is this gibberish page? Translate it will you.

 

Where have I backtracked? You are the one talking bollocks here.

As a child clubs were refusing to pay his medical bills. Barcelona stepped up and said we will pay it if you move to spain.

The rest is history.

 

So no club paying medical bills for Messi would have stopped C.Ronaldo making it eh...?

 

Well considering he needed the treatments then no. Its pretty basic stuff.

And ronaldo needed no treatment. He needed someone to take him under their wing and help develop his game. That man was Fergie. Theres only one Fergie.

Imagine Ronaldo at Liverpool with the worst man manager ever, Rafa. He wouldn't be anything like he is now.

 

What crippling genetic problem did Ronaldo suffer from that only Man Utd could pay for treatment? His inability to stand with legs closer than shoulder width apart?

 

Genuine question. Are you a ******?

On behalf of all not606.

 

He almost joined us whilst Houllier was in charge. He'd have been a better player too

 

Robben is a good example of right player at the right club. His ability was never in doubt and his mental strength was always tough. Yet at Chelsea and Madrid he was never anything like top 5 in the world.

A move to a club that is about football under a manager who nurtures talent though. That made him arguably the third best player in the world.

 

You would have sold him 6 months later.

 

Nah, only utd have the mystic powers to change ordinary players into wpoty.

Well according to UIR.

 

Obviously you are now going to name a long list of Premier League clubs who have also played a part in making a wpoty.

 

Or you're going to name a list of prem players that were made wpoty because they played for utd.

Mikey the Manc is the only prem player to win it wasn't he?