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Redknapp gone!!

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Ranger74, Feb 3, 2015.

  1. Tramore Ranger

    Tramore Ranger Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    TBH there isn't a lot to choose from, but I suppose long term someone like Eddie Howe at Bournemouth or Karl Robinson from MK Dons would fit the bill, although Howe is likely to be in the Prem with Bournemouth next season and Robinson is building a legacy at MK with the money they have just got from Spurs for that youngster.

    Other than that I guess that we should look at France, Germany, Netherlands, Spain for a youngish forward thinking coach, Neil Clement from Real Madrid would be ideal as he is the son of R's legend the late Dave Clement........

    Nobody else springs to mind but certainly we really don't need a big name, just someone who wants to do a job with a decent chairman supporting him.....
     
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  2. Sharpe*

    Sharpe* Senior Member

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    Haha could you imagine him as manager?!
     
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  3. Sharpe*

    Sharpe* Senior Member

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    100% agree with that.

    I mentioned Howe on the other thread and I also thought about the Milton Keynes chap.

    It may be better to give a break to someone performing well in the lower leagues - everybody has to start somewhere, instead of signing the same dross who do the rounds.
     
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  4. MSRANGERS999

    MSRANGERS999 Well-Known Member

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    HR pissed that TF didn't splash the cash on transfer deadline. Come on Tone all I need is 10mill to get us out of turmoil that I've put us in #pissoffharry
     
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  5. Bigchazqpr

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    agree with this. nobody's coming out of this looking too clever. as for replacements…who knows?? I'll tell you one thing though, it's going to be an enormous gamble whoever it is!!
     
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  6. UTRs

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    It's a shame but for me and many others on this forum a huge relief. When Harold took over we were a massive shambles. I liked Harry and honestly thought we would eventually see some good attacking football but alas it never really panned out like that.

    I always try my very best to be upbeat and positive but the way things have been it's started to suck the life out of me.

    We do have some decent players in our squad and hopefully we will now get someone to play them in the right positions and have a better game plan.

    For now lets all try and get behind Sir Les and see if he can eradicate that stench of relegation coming from QPR right now.
     
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  7. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    I've been out most of the day so only heard this evening the news that Redknapp has gone.

    My wish now is that the board doesn't rush into a decision to appoint his replacement. I think they should let Ferdinand have the caretaker role for the rest of the season and make a decision early summer once we know which league we're in. If there's a clamour for Sherwood then it's because we haven't looked hard enough.
     
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  8. SpursDisciple

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    Redknapp left because he was asked to report to Ferdinand over transfers. And Ferdinand is a 2 faced twat.
     
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  9. UTRs

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    This 100% for me. Lets try and get the right foundations in place for once, something that's been lacking for too long at our club!
     
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  10. Flanman

    Flanman Well-Known Member

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    I keep on seeing Neil Clements name being thrown about but why would he come down several levels to be our manager, I just don't get it or ever seeing happening.
     
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  11. MelburnIAN

    MelburnIAN Well-Known Member

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    statement from ‘arry:


    Look it’s been a triffic knee, fantastic even, but it’s getting tough and it needs some help. It’s the second leg, no hang on that’s not right we have not made the second leg of anything this year. No it’s a difficult leg away from home, and it needs a key joint. We wanted to bring in Articulatio Genus from Lazio as a replacement but he turned us down. There have been suggestions that the knee is not pulling its weight, and let’s face it, it’s well paid. It’s been training hard, but well it’s just not been up to the standard the leg requires. I was looking for a knee on loan, but Tony said no more cheques, you’ve got all the knees you asked for in the summer. So I would like to wish the next Spurs reject the best of luck; I have left the club in exactly the same state that I found it, no hang on that’s not right I think we are one place higher in 19th, we were 20th when I took over, so there has been some improvement.

    It’s been ‘triffic but it’s a tough league and it can take a big toll on your joints especially when you are ready to draw a pension, nuff said. I am looking on the bright side though all my hips are in tip top shape – triffic.
     
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  12. CamchatkaFC

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    Good piece in the Guardian on Harry's career ends with some of his most classic excuses, reminding us that the man could explain away absolutely anything. Whether it's Taarabt's weight, 'bad luck' or frogs.

    Funny, sad, pathetic and then funny again.
     
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  13. MelburnIAN

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    Although he's not the forum just now, got the news via sms from Queens at 1.30am - cheers mate.

    Shocked? No! Stunned? A little, timing is total tosh. Just listening to Rodnee on Talkshite, our club has issues clearly, but a decent performance from the team on Saturday and a point from our next away match and there'll be some hope. Up an on. URssss

    Thanks for Wembley Harry... good luck with your projects
     
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  14. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Here's a view from a QPR/Guardian journalist fan who sits in the west paddock.....


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    Fan’s view: Harry Redknapp’s QPR reign has been a predictable shambles
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    From a litany of preposterous signings to not knowing his best formation, the former manager won’t be missed. But Tony Fernandes should take much of the blame for this cursed club’s crisis too
    • Poll: Who should replace Redknapp at Loftus Road?

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    ‘The obvious conclusion from the last few years is that there is a deep-seated problem within the culture of the club, whereby failure is tolerated.’ Photograph: Eddie Keogh/Reuters
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    Back when Harry Redknapp was appointed Queens Park Rangers manager in November 2012, I said on the Guardian’s Football Weekly podcast that I wasn’t overjoyed about him coming in to the club I support. Rangers would still be relegated, I predicted, we’d just do it more expensively. It was one of the rare football predictions I’ve made that was right. You won’t be surprised, then, to hear I’m not sorry he’s gone.

    Redknapp’s reign has been a shambles, to be frank. There have been a preposterous number of signings, at a total cost reputed to be £58m, both on permanent deals and on loans, most of whom have been anonymous at best, and shocking at worst. The club wasted £12.5m on buying Christopher Samba from Anzhi Makhachkala in the January transfer window two years ago, to be rewarded with performances that redefined the word “ineffectual” (why Anzhi paid the same fee to bring him back at the end of the season is one of those mysteries that has one wondering quite what the deal was all about).

    This season’s big peculiarity has been Jordon Mutch – bought last summer for £5.5m, given 11 games, none of them in his preferred position as an attacking central midfielder, then discarded for £4.75m to Crystal Palace, because – as the chairman Tony Fernandes tweeted – he was “not in the manager’s plans”. If he wasn’t in the manager’s plans, why did the manager buy him in the first place?

    Presumably because last summer he was in the manager’s plans. Redknapp intended to play a 3-5-2 based around Rio Ferdinand in central defence. The only problem with the one that was widely foreseen by everyone except Ferdinand and Redknapp: that the former Manchester United captain was no longer up to being the linchpin of a Premier League defence, certainly when those alongside him were not of the very highest class. Both Ferdinand and 3-5-2 were discarded before we had to put on jumpers to go to matches, leaving Redknapp with a selection quandary – that he didn’t have the right players in midfield for any other formation.

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    Rangers have had a glut of No10s – Leroy Fer, Niko Kranjcar, the now departed Mutch, the ostracised Adel Taarabt – but played a system without No10s, and with central players out of position on the wings. Nor did he have the defenders: he’d got rid of the one true right-back, Danny Simpson, and replaced him with a wing-back, Mauricio Isla, who often looks lost in a flat back four.

    Rangers fans haven’t been happy with Redknapp for most of his tenure, and there’s going to be a fair amount of “ding dong the witch is dead” over the next few days. Though the club won promotion via the playoffs last season, it was hardly the triumphal procession it should have been, given the resources at his disposal. The football was usually pretty dreadful, especially away from home. At times the atmosphere got poisonous as a result, with the loss at Charlton a nadir, Rangers performing woefully in front of a large travelling support that seemed to spend more time squabbling among themselves about whether it was appropriate to let the team know exactly how bad they were rather than watching the game.

    And yet, last summer, there was a certain amount of optimism. Rangers had Charlie Austin to bang in goals, and most of the new signings appeared to be the kind of players Rangers needed – young and talented, with resale value, rather than old lags cashing in one last time. So what’s gone wrong?

    The answer can’t just be that Redknapp didn’t know what he was doing, though that did often seem to be the case as he tinkered with formations and failed to address defensive and attacking shortcomings in favour of piling up midfielders. Two successive managers with good records have come to Loftus Road and failed; they’ve bought youngish players who’ve looked good and done well elsewhere but failed in west London. Mark Hughes brought in Stéphane Mbia, Esteban Granero and Junior Hoilett; Redknapp brought in Austin (his one great success), Matt Phillips, Steven Caulker, Mutch and Leroy Fer. But still Rangers have struggled. The club has taken good managers and players and turned them into dross, giving them the footballing anti-Midas touch. Last time Rangers were in the Premier League it was apparently all Hughes’s fault the team was a disgrace, and that he’d been found out as a manager. Well, he’s done all right at Stoke, hasn’t he? And Mutch will now doubtless go on to shine for Palace.

    The obvious conclusion from the last few years is that there is a deep-seated problem within the culture, whereby failure is tolerated. Possibly the reason, in many fans’ eyes, is that the club doesn’t seem to be central to the ambitions ofTony Fernandes and the consortium that owns Rangers.

    Just look at the bungled announcement of its intention to build a new ground at Old Oak Common in northwest London (bungled because the owner of a chunk of the site, Car Giant, made plain it wanted to develop the land itself, without a football stadium, thank you very much). Or the signing of Ji-Sung Park, another of the underwhelming blasts from the past who’ve come to Loftus Road, pocketed their pay and not performed but acted as a useful marketing tool for Fernandes’s Air Asia. Building a strong football club seems to be somewhere down the list of priorities.

    QPR is a club without any sense of vision. For all Fernandes’s boasts about long-term strategies, still no spade has gone into the earth on the promised new training facilities. The youth system has failed to produce a first-team regular in … well, I really don’t know how long.

    I can’t remember one – that’s how long it is. Fernandes inherited a ton of these problems – Rangers had been a club that overpaid mediocre players for some years, and under the previous regime of Flavio Briatore and Bernie Ecclestone, the fact that Patrick Agyemang arrived for home games in his Bentley was seen by fans as the symbol of that stupidity. But he has solved none of them and added more – internal debt of £170m, which would leave them bankrupt if Fernandes and his friends decided to pull out and demand repayment, plus two bank loans totalling £42m.

    And after all that, QPR are still in the same position they were when Fernandes took over – pootling along at the foot of the Premier League. You don’t hear his name sung very often at games anymore, and the mood of the messageboards has shifted.

    Harry Redknapp did not do a good job at QPR. But the question remains: could anyone succeed at this cursed club?

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  15. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Let me know which posts you are unhappy with ROR and I along with Beth and Tramore will take a look at them. You may do this on this thread or via PM. But as Swords alludes to below, we all have differing opinions and takes on the situation and everyone has an entitlement to their say on it. There can be no right or wrong on this in my opinion, it just depends on which standpoint you're approaching this from. I appreciate that this is an emotive subject but posters on our board will post effectively as their emotions see fit at the time and have the right to change their stance should they need to. This isn't a witch hunt, we're all trying to find a common ground between us here. That's what I think anyway.

     
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  16. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    I hope he does pick the same team

    but just plays them in the positions they played in before they came to us
     
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    Totallyqpr Well-Known Member

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    Deserve? Yes, but would he be your choice for a long term manager. For me, this is a massive no.
     
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  18. BlindFaith

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    Been bleeding obvious to everyone apart from the manager &/or those who dictate the transfer signings.

    Can't say I'm sad to see him go as don't think his heart has been in it but ffs if going to happen should have happened at the beginning of Jan for his replacement to at least have a chance to make some changes. As it stands we've still got a disjointed squad which will mean either changing the system or continue playing players out of position.
     
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  19. rangercol

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    Why though?
     
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  20. CamchatkaFC

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    I fully agree. While I think the vitriol and extreme language is unwarranted, I'd hate to see language get restricted if at all possible. I'd rather hope we can collectively encourage folks to be respectful and a bit more articulate -- even if its coarse or vulgar. Getting angry, frustrated and venting is one thing, but some of the strings of vile comments we've seen really add little value to the board and discussion.

    What on earth is anyone supposed to say or do with a comment like "Harry is a f****** c**t!" or thereabout?

    Thanks to you and the others for watching over the board. I am hoping we can continue without intervention.
     
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