Skrtel Vs Costa

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Trying to provoke them into reacting and losing their heads? IDK, I'm not Costa so its hard to say, but I defended Suarez for much the same things, it would be really hypocritical of me to totally condemn these sort of incidents now that the shoe is on the other foot.

Personally I never defended Suarez for stamping or biting. Only on the diving issue because he dived far less than he was robbed of a penalty by a bad call.

My whole issue is that Costa and Suarez are birds of a feather, they do the same things to push it to the limit and get defenders worked up, it's very much a South American football thing, see Simeone during his playing career, and Costa was pretty wild before he arrived at Atletico Madrid, Simeone helped Costa refine his wild side but he goes over the line from time to time.

My issue is, Suarez was cast as a monster by certain people and the media and Costa is not. These people deluded themselves now when it comes to that very point. The same yard stick is not used on both players.

There is a difference. Suarez liked to press his teeth into people, lets calla spade a spade, he didn't bite as in take a lump out of someone but that's how it was portrayed. Suarez did it out of whatever, frustration, childishness ect, Costa on the other hand sets out to do this. According to an article on BBC atm it's said he went to Terry and said he was going to start **** and asked Terry to have his back, using Fabergas as an interpreter to get the message across to Terry. He sets out to stamp and all the other **** he does.

Again.. I did not defend Suarez when he did those sorts of things. But.. I laugh at the muppetry of many who absolutely banged on ad nausea about how snidey and cheaty Suarez was and do not hold Costa in the same regard when he is at least as bad if not a worse offender. I am talking those who are not supporters of Chelsea or Liverpool as both sets of those supporters would be inclined to be protective of their own club's player, I am talking about the other fans and the media and everyone else involved in football, even ****ing Cameron had a say for ****'s sake.

And all of those who say the WC handball had nothing to do with their dislike of Suarez, are liars, as if they are a modicom of honesty themselves and many a pro said they would do the exact same thing in Suarez shoes in that game. Costa himself talks of the will to win at ANY cost but for Costa that seems ok, it seems his will to dive, play act, stamp, gob fling and attempt to bite are all just part of his will to win, but when Suarez did it, he was the devil.

So, this contradictory garbage spouted by some is what irks me. I as a Liverpool fan have a right to bitch about Costa just as Chelsea fans bitched about Suarez. If my stance is ironic then so would be the stance of every Chelsea fan who defends Costa as I defended Suarez though as I said twice, I never defended him on the over the line stuff, the very things all and sundry are now defending Costa over. It seems more than a few need to look up what irony actually means

 

[Tobes]

Personally I never defended Suarez for stamping or biting. Only on the diving issue because he dived far less than he was robbed of a penalty by a bad call.

My whole issue is that Costa and Suarez are birds of a feather, they do the same things to push it to the limit and get defenders worked up, it's very much a South American football thing, see Simeone during his playing career, and Costa was pretty wild before he arrived at Atletico Madrid, Simeone helped Costa refine his wild side but he goes over the line from time to time.

My issue is, Suarez was cast as a monster by certain people and the media and Costa is not. These people deluded themselves now when it comes to that very point. The same yard stick is not used on both players.

There is a difference. Suarez liked to press his teeth into people, lets calla spade a spade, he didn't bite as in take a lump out of someone but that's how it was portrayed. Suarez did it out of whatever, frustration, childishness ect, Costa on the other hand sets out to do this. According to an article on BBC atm it's said he went to Terry and said he was going to start **** and asked Terry to have his back, using Fabergas as an interpreter to get the message across to Terry. He sets out to stamp and all the other **** he does.

Again.. I did not defend Suarez when he did those sorts of things. But.. I laugh at the muppetry of many who absolutely banged on ad nausea about how snidey and cheaty Suarez was and do not hold Costa in the same regard when he is at least as bad if not a worse offender. I am talking those who are not supporters of Chelsea or Liverpool as both sets of those supporters would be inclined to be protective of their own club's player, I am talking about the other fans and the media and everyone else involved in football, even ****ing Cameron had a say for ****'s sake.

And all of those who say the WC handball had nothing to do with their dislike of Suarez, are liars, as if they are a modicom of honesty themselves and many a pro said they would do the exact same thing in Suarez shoes in that game. Costa himself talks of the will to win at ANY cost but for Costa that seems ok, it seems his will to dive, play act, stamp, gob fling and attempt to bite are all just part of his will to win, but when Suarez did it, he was the devil.

So, this contradictory garbage spouted by some is what irks me. I as a Liverpool fan have a right to bitch about Costa just as Chelsea fans bitched about Suarez. If my stance is ironic then so would be the stance of every Chelsea fan who defends Costa as I defended Suarez though as I said twice, I never defended him on the over the line stuff, the very things all and sundry are now defending Costa over. It seems more than a few need to look up what irony actually means

MFAO

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I must have imagined the hours you spent trying to convince us all that his nibbles were nothing really and far less than a bad tackle and that his stamps werren't really stamps at all etc etc. ad infinitum.

You're either completely deluded, have had some form of severe memory loss or you're just a lying ****. Answers on a postcard.

 

[Blueman]

Personally I never defended Suarez for stamping or biting. Only on the diving issue because he dived far less than he was robbed of a penalty by a bad call.

My whole issue is that Costa and Suarez are birds of a feather, they do the same things to push it to the limit and get defenders worked up, it's very much a South American football thing, see Simeone during his playing career, and Costa was pretty wild before he arrived at Atletico Madrid, Simeone helped Costa refine his wild side but he goes over the line from time to time.

My issue is, Suarez was cast as a monster by certain people and the media and Costa is not. These people deluded themselves now when it comes to that very point. The same yard stick is not used on both players.

There is a difference. Suarez liked to press his teeth into people, lets calla spade a spade, he didn't bite as in take a lump out of someone but that's how it was portrayed. Suarez did it out of whatever, frustration, childishness ect, Costa on the other hand sets out to do this. According to an article on BBC atm it's said he went to Terry and said he was going to start **** and asked Terry to have his back, using Fabergas as an interpreter to get the message across to Terry. He sets out to stamp and all the other **** he does.

Again.. I did not defend Suarez when he did those sorts of things. But.. I laugh at the muppetry of many who absolutely banged on ad nausea about how snidey and cheaty Suarez was and do not hold Costa in the same regard when he is at least as bad if not a worse offender. I am talking those who are not supporters of Chelsea or Liverpool as both sets of those supporters would be inclined to be protective of their own club's player, I am talking about the other fans and the media and everyone else involved in football, even ****ing Cameron had a say for ****'s sake.

And all of those who say the WC handball had nothing to do with their dislike of Suarez, are liars, as if they are a modicom of honesty themselves and many a pro said they would do the exact same thing in Suarez shoes in that game. Costa himself talks of the will to win at ANY cost but for Costa that seems ok, it seems his will to dive, play act, stamp, gob fling and attempt to bite are all just part of his will to win, but when Suarez did it, he was the devil.

So, this contradictory garbage spouted by some is what irks me. I as a Liverpool fan have a right to bitch about Costa just as Chelsea fans bitched about Suarez. If my stance is ironic then so would be the stance of every Chelsea fan who defends Costa as I defended Suarez though as I said twice, I never defended him on the over the line stuff, the very things all and sundry are now defending Costa over. It seems more than a few need to look up what irony actually means

So you're comparing Costa to someone who sunk his teeth into TWO opponents. Not even close. Lying muppet.

 

[Blueman]

MFAO

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I must have imagined the hours you spent trying to convince us all that his nibbles were nothing really and far less than a bad tackle and that his stamps werren't really stamps at all etc etc. ad infinitum.

You're either completely deluded, have had some form of severe memory loss or you're just a lying ****. Answers on a postcard.

Oh he's a lying ****.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

So you're comparing Costa to someone who sunk his teeth into TWO opponents. Not even close. Lying muppet.

Couple of things...

1) you do realise Costa has bitten (or attempted to) before right...?

2) Suarez did it three times!

3) Once a biter, always a biter

Costa is every bit as much of a nasty ****er as Suarez. IMO, its not a bad thing for a team to have. I've already gone on record as saying I'd love Costa to be playing for us. Someone like that drives a team on, gets them going and encourages the team to fight for every challenge.

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

So you're comparing Costa to someone who sunk his teeth into TWO opponents. Not even close. Lying muppet.

Show me where I compared the bites to anything Costa did.

I compared players, their antics vary. Both dive both play act both try rile opponents and both go over the line, trying to differentiate the actual acts of going over the line is an attempt to portray one as worse than the other.
Also re your nonsesne media type "sinking in teeth" crap, had Suarez sank those teeth into anything he's have taken a lump out of the opponent, yet not once did he actually break skin, and that shows a measure of control, do you at least understand that? Because if he had just lost it and savaged an opponent he's have left far more than a few indentations, Tyson on Hollyfield is an example of actual biting, what Suarez did is what kids do when they have a temper fit. He certainly as a set of choppers that could do a lot of damage if he so wished.
This is pretty much similar to costa, he could have really injured Can, as well as Skrtel with his face clawing but he had a measure of control and didn't go that far, yes you all find Suarez nibbles worse than stamping and many of you lie and say you'd rather a punch in the face (epic lie) than a few indentations on the skin. They are still in the same category of going over the line regardless of which we find more repulsive.

So you can say "muppet" all you wish but the contents of your PMs in my inbox show who the real muppet is, maybe I could put them in my sig, you snivelling little bitch.

Also you obviously ain't got the cognitive ability to understand the rest of my post you replied to and so, like any average brainless twat you jump on one tiny piece, twisted it and then replied to your own twisted version.

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Couple of things...

1) you do realise Costa has bitten (or attempted to) before right...?

2) Suarez did it three times!

3) Once a biter, always a biter

Costa is every bit as much of a nasty ****er as Suarez. IMO, its not a bad thing for a team to have. I've already gone on record as saying I'd love Costa to be playing for us. Someone like that drives a team on, gets them going and encourages the team to fight for every challenge.

Pretty much.
Like trying to draw a line between Hitler and Stalin

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

MFAO

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I must have imagined the hours you spent trying to convince us all that his nibbles were nothing really and far less than a bad tackle and that his stamps werren't really stamps at all etc etc. ad infinitum.

You're either completely deluded, have had some form of severe memory loss or you're just a lying ****. Answers on a postcard.

when did I ever defend saurez stamping or biting, answers on a post card and no, typing a few paragraphs takes about 3 or 4 minutes at 60 words a minute. Hours? Maybe work on your typing skills

back up your comments, and like blueman, you don't even have the wherewithall to understand my post let alone refute it, he posts one like talking ****e and you talk drivel and post a picture, your usual retort.

Why would anyone defend stamping or biting or headbutts ect? Worse still, bluemuppet tried to say Costa didn;t mean it. Talk about delusional.

Costa does a lot of stuff that is just part of his game, that's fair enough, but like Suarez he goes overboard because he has anger issues, even a blind cat could see that.

It's also a fact he was worse for that **** when he first joined Atletico.

You don;t like facts, you like to take what someone says, and twist it and reply to your twisted shorthand version because you just can't be arsed to actually discuss it, unless it's market rates, you spent several days on that one, several days trying to twist and turn to explain how one offer set the market rate, and on several boards too and everywhere you tried it you were told you were talking ****e

 

[Tobes]

when did I ever defend saurez stamping or biting, answers on a post card and no, typing a few paragraphs takes about 3 or 4 minutes at 60 words a minute. Hours? Maybe work on your typing skills

back up your comments, and like blueman, you don't even have the wherewithall to understand my post let alone refute it, he posts one like talking ****e and you talk drivel and post a picture, your usual retort.

Why would anyone defend stamping or biting or headbutts ect? Worse still, bluemuppet tried to say Costa didn;t mean it. Talk about delusional.

Costa does a lot of stuff that is just part of his game, that's fair enough, but like Suarez he goes overboard because he has anger issues, even a blind cat could see that.

It's also a fact he was worse for that **** when he first joined Atletico.

You don;t like facts, you like to take what someone says, and twist it and reply to your twisted shorthand version because you just can't be arsed to actually discuss it, unless it's market rates, you spent several days on that one, several days trying to twist and turn to explain how one offer set the market rate, and on several boards too and everywhere you tried it you were told you were talking ****e

Try here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/reither-stamps-on-januzajs-leg.235773/#post-5567414

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/kevin-mirallis.238451/#post-5667569

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/kevin-mirallis.238451/page-2#post-5667675

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-o...so-get-commenting.267014/page-23#post-6670511

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-o...so-get-commenting.267014/page-72#post-6674703

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-o...so-get-commenting.267014/page-66#post-6673728

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/suarez.207428/page-36#post-4622307

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/suarez.207428/page-23#post-4619750

You're Welcome

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Try here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/reither-stamps-on-januzajs-leg.235773/#post-5567414

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/kevin-mirallis.238451/#post-5667569

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/kevin-mirallis.238451/page-2#post-5667675

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-o...so-get-commenting.267014/page-23#post-6670511

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-o...so-get-commenting.267014/page-72#post-6674703

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-o...so-get-commenting.267014/page-66#post-6673728

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/suarez.207428/page-36#post-4622307

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/suarez.207428/page-23#post-4619750

Currently I am trying to sort out variane calculations in java, I will have a look to be fair like. I did look at the first and I said Suarez bite was not dangerous, I never defended it, it wasn't dangerous. That's my opinion not a defense. So scratch that first one off mate, unless you don't understand a difference between an opinion on the matter and defending it, I'll come back after I read the others and if I am wrong I'll sure eat some humble pie.

You actually went through the site looking for my old posts
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[BBFs Unpopular View]

Try here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/reither-stamps-on-januzajs-leg.235773/#post-5567414

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/kevin-mirallis.238451/#post-5667569

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/kevin-mirallis.238451/page-2#post-5667675

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-o...so-get-commenting.267014/page-23#post-6670511

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-o...so-get-commenting.267014/page-72#post-6674703

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-o...so-get-commenting.267014/page-66#post-6673728

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/suarez.207428/page-36#post-4622307

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/suarez.207428/page-23#post-4619750

You're Welcome

I looked at the second and it is also an opinion on the bite, not a defense, are the rest like this, none of it is defending the bite and are actually my opinions that the bite was, as I stated today, childish stupid but not dangerous or evil. FFS like, are you thick?

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Let me explain Tobes, defending Suarez would be saying he was right to bite or had a good reson, my opinion that the bite was nothing but childish stupidity is not defending it or Suarez.
I'll wait till I read the others before stating that you don't even have a grasp of the meaning of simple english words.

I did think that when I said I never defended it, that you'd not be sad enough to go trolling through the site for old posts. Boy was I wrong

 

[astro]

Let me explain Tobes, defending Suarez would be saying he was right to bite or had a good reson, my opinion that the bite was nothing but childish stupidity is not defending it or Suarez.
I'll wait till I read the others before stating that you don't even have a grasp of the meaning of simple english words.

I did think that when I said I never defended it, that you'd not be sad enough to go trolling through the site for old posts. Boy was I wrong

If you don't think it was the most horrific and unprecedented incident to ever take place on a football pitch, and you don't think the ban should be completely disproportionate to any previous bans imposed on footballers, and you don't think it is honestly a major social issue requiring comment from all levels of government up to and including the prime minister himself, then you are defending it.

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Try here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/reither-stamps-on-januzajs-leg.235773/#post-5567414
Yes, to back up the point i was making, that the FA are ****ing useless, what point were you making about bringing up Suarez? the bite was not dangerous play, it was completely ridiculously stupid but not dangerous - not defending it. Opinion on the bite

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/kevin-mirallis.238451/#post-5667569
You need to look up what "a bite" is.

Ivanovic didn't even have any marks to show the ref. The only person Suarez actually hurt there was himself by being stupid - not defending it. Opinion on the bite

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/kevin-mirallis.238451/page-2#post-5667675
No I said he nibbled him, he did not clamp use his jaw as you need to to actually bite someone, it#s quite simple, he got frustrated and really gnawed at him, never intending to actually hurt him or damage his arm in any way. Like I said, he hurt himself more than Ivanovic by getting banned for 10 games and embarrassing himself and the club.

Tyson bit Holyfield, that was a bite. maybe you n david Cameron would be good mates, you both have the same girly impression of what a bit is. Worse happens on every amateur rugby scrum week in week out. - again opinion on the bite, not defending it or Suarez

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-o...so-get-commenting.267014/page-23#post-6670511
So is spitting, don't remember the Kraut getting 2 years, spitting is worse IMO.

But you said biting is childish and so are all the other petulant fouls meaning there are a large number of childish players and so Suarez is nothing new. That's all I meant.

I am laughing at the reaction over this tbh, hilarious - again opinoon on it and the overreaction by everyone, not defending it.


and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-o...so-get-commenting.267014/page-72#post-6674703
As for the mental stuff, Suarez frustration manifests it's self in bites, others suffer the exact same thing but use other means to lash out. The underlying problem a problem for a few footballers.

Ho many times has a player either kicked someone out of frustration or out of a need for payback or in at least one case tried to put someone's face in with a flying elbow.

If Luis just kicked or elbowed someone like everyone else does we would not be having this conversation. - This could be seen as defending him but not defending the bite for sure, mainly opinon of the bite and comparison to other chicanery.. so maybe..

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/the-o...so-get-commenting.267014/page-66#post-6673728
yep photos can be made to out to look like that, you can also argue he is trying to bite Suarez
[HASHTAG]#seriouslythough[/HASHTAG]
opinion on the photo of Suarez biting, not a defense of Suarez,

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/suarez.207428/page-36#post-4622307
Of course it is, what is being debated now pretty much is why this is such an EVIL thing, why has much worse play gone unpunished and unprinted?

I've heard Duncan Ferguson hailed for his sometimes GBH. I heard fans hail Huth for stamping on Suarez

Where was the mass outcry then? - again not defending the bite, putting it into context with other nasty ****, I still do think it's worse to get stamped on or an elbow, on a pain\injury level, ****ing right I do.

and here;

http://www.not606.com/threads/suarez.207428/page-23#post-4619750
Soooo much bollox.

England top flight hall of shame
We've had GBH on the pitch in the past
Attacks on a fan by a player
Drug cheating
Sacked player
The most disgusting family man ever
Nazi keeper
Spitting
Stamping
career ending tackles
All manner of dangerous play with the intention of hurting another player
Biting

Suarez has committed some of the above but not the worst by far.

I have mentioned it yesterday re Huth's stamp on him, Aguero's assault on Sideshow Bob too and Sideshow Bob's assault when Chelsea played Brentford.

Those above are the reasons I have not and will not take this whole fiasco with anything more than a pinch of salt, everyone is entitled ot their say but those that display "Real" disgust or moral repugnance will just make me laugh because they apply it carefully to what they choose to.

This would still be a little back story if he was English and a below average player - |I did stand up for Suarez here and put his bite into context comparing it to the other **** that goes on, but never defended the bite.


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As I stated I never defended the biting or stamping ever. IMO the bites were nothing, they caused no damage and that's my opinion, I never defended him doing it and there is no attempted mitigation on my part blaming opponents for him choosing to bite. Almost all of it is from sheer amazement at the reaction and of course, a lot of posts without any context of the discussion they were part of.

You must be a **** manager mate, you are an idiot

Seriously, in plain English, without your point scoring banter nonsense. Are you ****ing thick?

Now unless you have any other imaginary defences of the bites? I have a lot of coding to be doing

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

If you don't think it was the most horrific and unprecedented incident to ever take place on a football pitch, and you don't think the ban should be completely disproportionate to any previous bans imposed on footballers, and you don't think it is honestly a major social issue requiring comment from all levels of government up to and including the prime minister himself, then you are defending it.

Tobes actualy doesn't get it though, he sees the words but the meaning is lost on him. I mean, seriously without banter, is he "lacking" in some way?

He is confusing my opinions on the bite and the media furore with defending Suarez stupid childish actions.

 

[Red Hadron Collider]

Couple of things...

1) you do realise Costa has bitten (or attempted to) before right...?

2) Suarez did it three times!

3) Once a bitter, always a bitter

Costa is every bit as much of a nasty ****er as Suarez. IMO, its not a bad thing for a team to have. I've already gone on record as saying I'd love Costa to be playing for us. Someone like that drives a team on, gets them going and encourages the team to fight for every challenge.

Repaired

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Repaired

[HASHTAG]#fixitman[/HASHTAG]

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

I guess the years of being in a brawl or two makes me look at the reaction to Suarez nibble and laugh at all the girly ****wits out there, for anyone of ye to have the same opinion on it as David Cameron shows what ****ing lightweight pussies you are

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[Red Hadron Collider]

I guess the years of being in a brawl or two makes me look at the reaction to Suarez nibble and laugh at all the girly ****wits out there, for anyone of ye to have the same opinion on it as David Cameron shows what ****ing lightweight pussies you are

[HASHTAG]#rowdynerd[/HASHTAG]

[HASHTAG]#howtowinfriendsandinfluencepeople[/HASHTAG]

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

[HASHTAG]#fixitman[/HASHTAG]

He never contributes anything to the conversation, just picks and pulls at the posters