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If Everton beat West Ham will the BBC do a top 7?

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Sisu said:
MITO what i think many confuse here is the seedyness of the event with there actually being a crime.

It was all pretty seedy, how the lads operated, but it takes two to tango or in this case three.

The seedyness of this is used to paint Evans as a rapist and the jury bought it. They had the consent thing removed from deliberations.. which is ****ing insane.

if the girl was unconscious and literally dragged to the hotel and then they did what they did then.. fair enough, that would be rape. but she was lucid, well as far as it suited her to be for the CPS and police, as soon as Evans was in that hotel room, she apparently was no longer lucid and responsible for her own choices.


This is a ****ing stitch up all day long and anyone thinking otherwise is sadly infected with femtard mentality.

What is ultimately tragic is there are thousands of women out there who have been violently raped and no one was brought to justice and they see this ****ing joke of a case where no one was raped and see a conviction.

The femtards, and you can spot them a mile away, will not accept any mitigation arguments for a man in a case like this, as soon as you try explain, they go nuclear
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No they didn't.

You clearly would have had Evans innocent before hearing any evidence and that's a very dangerous stance to take.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
the thing in boys and girls the evidence that was on offer was enough to show she was plastered totally and falling about the place.

perhaps you should be asking is if a hotel had night security or a porter or whatever why the f were they allowed up cos he clearly didn't pay for the room per person and why was no charges brought about giving out key card to evans which should never happen.

my only question from reading the stuff you've posted is why was the first guy not done rather than why was evans guilty.
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The actual evidence, not some grainy CCTV footage, showed she wasnt as drunk as some might think.

2.5 times over the drink drive limit. No alcohol in her system and if she was as wasted as is claimed, experts have stated they would have been expected to find some trace of alcohol.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
No they didn't.

You clearly would have had Evans innocent before hearing any evidence and that's a very dangerous stance to take.
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You sound like one of those femtards mate. Evans was there, he said he asked and she said yes, she did not deny it. You determine he is lying? based on what evidence?

Did the judge not direct the jury to remove consideration of valid consent from deliberations due to her perceived intoxication level, something that cannot be proved in any way shape or form?

Remember all the evidence came from Evans and his mate regarding what happened in that hotel room. The fact they had sex camr from Evans himself not the girl.

Rapists always intentionally incriminate themselvs don't they.. oh wait... they don't.
Rapists always through away lucrative careers for a go on some yoke ina hotel don't they.. atually they don't

This is a rape case where the issue of consent was removed totally

The logic of this case doesn't add up at all.

Dangerous? What is dangerous is letting rapists go free and locking up innocent albeit seedy blokes.

UK police have a track record of ignoring rape cases, literally.

If Evans denied ever having sex with her.. there was no forensic evidence to prove otherwise nor a complaint. His honesty led to his conviction. Justice my arse
 
Sisu said:
You sound like one of those femtards mate. Evans was there, he said he asked and she said yes, she did not deny it.

Did the judge not direct the jury to remove consideration of valid consent from deliberations due to her perceived intoxication level, something that cannot be proved in any way shape or form?

Remember all the evidence came from Evans and his mate regarding what happened in that hotel room. The fact they had sex camr from Evans himself not the girl.

Rapists always intentionally incriminate themselvs don't they.. oh wait... they don't.
Rapists always through away lucrative careers for a go on some yoke ina hotel don't they.. atually they don;t

The logic of this case doesn't add up at all.

Dangerous? What is dangerous is letting rapists go free and locking up innocent albeit seedy blokes.
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No.

I can't say whether it was rape or not and have never said otherwise. I am going by the facts from court records and countering points others are making that are false or just plain made up. You started off by saying they had sex in a toilet which made me think you hadn't read the records at all and why I've put forward the facts as I know them to put a bit of balance there, that's all. Dare I say a bit like the Suarez thing when all sorts of rubbish was being written as fact - historically it's how hate starts, you know that.

I don't defend the girl or accuse Evans, the whole thing is seedy as you say and had she not been so drunk that she left her bag on the pavement outside the shop, we wouldn't be talking about it now but seeing as we are, we should debate the facts and not the made up, emotional fantasies.
 
Sisu said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/ne...-drunken-girl-allegedly-raped-Ched-Evans.html

The CCTV. That girl is not destroyed by gargle, she makes her way about into that hotel of her own accord, not being half carried by the bloke.

And it is the CPS and Police that allege she was raped, not her herself, that in it's self shows JB that you are full of femtard rage mate.
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Wrong again. [you're right that she didn't claim it] The police arrested both men on suspicion of sexual assault which covers a very wide area, the jury came back with 'rape'.
 
I'm not sure you've read anything I've written when feel you can say this: ''And it is the CPS and Police that allege she was raped, not her herself, that in it's self shows JB that you are full of femtard rage mate.'' .... since I've never claimed anything of the sort.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
Wrong again. [you're right that she didn't claim it] The police arrested both men on suspicion of sexual assault which covers a very wide area, the jury came back with 'rape'.
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The jury didn't charge him with rape ffs the Police did and the CPS took that charge to Crown court

You really should practice what you preach and discuss the facts and not 'made up nonsense'
 
UnitedinRed said:
Roy Rodgers obviously. Hes missing the main man. When hes back its deffo a 300 game unbeaten run!
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Our last loss was againt ye lot, we are definitely on an upwards trend, you lot on the other hand are on a downwards trend. We've knocked 7 points off your lead over us in recent weeks
[HASHTAG]#withoutstudge[/HASHTAG]

But I know maths ain't your strongest suit, so I won't hold it against you :bandit:
 
Sisu said:
Our last loss was againt ye lot, we are definitely on an upwards trend, you lot on the other hand are on a downwards trend. We've knocked 7 points off your lead over us
[HASHTAG]#withoutstudge[/HASHTAG]

But I know maths ain't your strongest suit, so I won't hold it against you :bandit:
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Well these are the fans that think Van Gaal's 37 points are bigger and better than Moyes' 37 points <ok>
 
astroturfnaut said:
Well these are the fans that think Van Gaal's 37 points are bigger and better than Moyes' 37 points <ok>
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Of course they do, with his reputation v Gaal is someone they can rimjob even when not winning. The only difference between this year and last year is MoyeZ has never had top level success so every manc thought they were more qualified than David when it came to tactics and squad selection, same **** when Rafa managed the chavs.

But in come the new guys and failure is hailed as success and the excuses are bandied about aplenty as they wait for it all to "come good"

I really hope Chelsea do not win the PL this year, just so i can read what excuses the chaps on the chav board come up with. Something to do with the moon's rotation or something, but never Jose's fault<laugh>
 
astroturfnaut said:
Well these are the fans that think Van Gaal's 37 points are bigger and better than Moyes' 37 points <ok>
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van Gaals 37 points are more than Rodgers 32 points though. As were Moyes' last season. Not that it means anything except show by your own standards that Rodgers is doing an incredibly bad job.

LvG - £150million - 3 places higher. Level on points with Moyes. (the standard I guess?)
Rodgers - £100million - 6 places lower. 5 points behind Moyes.

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