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Eyup ****.
Why would it piss me off? It confirms that you can read history books & your great grandfather wasn't a virgin (although it may have been better for the world today if he had been)
Being related to an ex City player does not distract from the fact you're a PLW.
He can't turn in his grave, he's dead.
He played for many clubs before settling in the area, similarly you've supported many clubs before settling (for now) on City (whilst we're in the PL). I see the family resemblance in personality traits.
"Fat"? No need for personal insults you ****.
You started getting personal. How the hell did you find out my surname was ****?
I don't think he's taking us for a ride. You put words into my mouth that I haven't said. You asked me how the loans would be repaid if we got relegated and I answered you.
The FFP Rules apply in the Championship and unless he converts loans into shares he has to at least break even, so what happened in 2012/13 is irrelevant.
The sooner the loans are repaid the better.
Footballers move around for career,money,transferred etc.Do you believe this applies to supporters?
I thought your name was ****tard Mark, nickname The ****.
I deducted this as I imagine people see you approaching & declare "Hey it's ****tard Mark, The ****". before hurrying away, pretending they've not seen you coming.
I've renamed you, a rebrand, by taking your christian name & pairing it with your nickname. "****tard ****". Then I've shortened it to simply "****" this will help you remember what & who you are.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/nov/12/tiger-economy-hull-city-assem-allam-asia
There was also an interview with Assem and Ehab Allam by Angus Young where he mentioned the joint venture which I haven't been able to find.
Do you think Assem Allam is a liar?
It doesn't matter what I believe. Ben has used his Tibetan techniques to nail my sorry arse and Ben is never wrong of course.
Although I thought it was quite dismissive of him to refer to my great gramps as just an ex City player.
I mean... come-on I don't know into the thousands of how many ex players there have been since 1904 where it all started, but we're talking the first ever recorded goal. That has to be at least on par in status as that other ex **** who many of you booed on New Years Day.
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Ha ha, good thinking happy a football hooligan film with a rom com twist....brilliant !
Here's a fact. It will be interesting to a fellow like yourself so steeped in bullshit.
What a load of bullshit. You're full of it.
'Mickey Mouse cup'
Here's a fact. It will be interesting to a fellow like yourself so steeped in bullshit.
What a load of bullshit. You're full of it.
'Mickey Mouse cup'
****... I've got the Chuckle Brothers ganging up on me tag-team style. Time for bed methinks.
How is it not relevant you idiot. The point is, there is no money in the Championship. That was the case then and is the case now. How can that not be relevant to how quickly he can recoup his investment?
The issue I have with you is that you only tell half the story and you word it to make Assem Allam seem like some kind of chancer who is ripping the club off. You were the one who said he only paid a few quid for the club, without any mention of the debt. Since then you have claimed that he will quickly get all his money back and may even double or more that gain. You don't mention anything of the risk he took then or now. You even claim he will get his money back even if we get relegated. You quote a load of figures and stats with no substantiation at all.
TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOT JUST THE BITS THAT SUPPORT YOUR POINT OF VIEW........IT'S LYING.
But just before I go... Ben reminded me of one of my post semi final quotes earlier... let me just copy and paste....
For the first time, I was able to make out some of the words to these chants. Slightly embarrassed about the one with the line about "the greatest football team the world has ever seen" but the rest of the chants seemed good fun."
That's the one.
So New Years Day, took my 10 year old niece along who I've been taking along with me this season for the first time.
And this particular song started to be chanted as some point. Obviously she hasn't heard it much this season because we haven't been in a winning position too often.
So she says "what are they singing". It's a great question, because unless you're actually in a singing stand, or you've just heard it before on match of the day where another club is singing it replacing (hull city with their own team), it is difficult to make out the words.
So not wanting to influence my niece, I put on a dead pan expression and told her the words.
Her eyes rolled up to the back of her head at which she replied, "I don't think so".
Well she is related to me so I guess it's generic.
For the first time, I was able to make out some of the words to these chants. Slightly embarrassed about the one with the line about "the greatest football team the world has ever seen" but the rest of the chants seemed good fun."
That's the one.
So New Years Day, took my 10 year old niece along who I've been taking along with me this season for the first time.
And this particular song started to be chanted as some point. Obviously she hasn't heard it much this season because we haven't been in a winning position too often.
So she says "what are they singing". It's a great question, because unless you're actually in a singing stand, or you've just heard it before on match of the day where another club is singing it replacing (hull city with their own team), it is difficult to make out the words.
So not wanting to influence my niece, I put on a dead pan expression and told her the words.
Her eyes rolled up to the back of her head at which she replied, "I don't think so".
Well she is related to me so I guess it's generic.
What a coincidence.
Maybe you've got the mind of a 10 year old, or she's lacking soul, loyalty & passion too.
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This is an interesting independant view.
http://www.lawinsport.com/blog/littleton-chambers/item/the-vanishing-tiger-what-s-in-a-name
THE DEBATE
Perhaps inevitably the debate over the change of name is emotive. The football club was founded in 1904 and picked up the nickname of the Tigers from around 1905. Fans have strongly opposed the change in name using an emotionally charged video4 to argue the case for retaining the name as Hull City, the campaign operates under the banner ‘City till we die’5.
On the other side of the debate Assem Allam and his family claim to have contributed over £74million to the club6 and they have overseen the rescue from administration to top flight football. They say that they need the club to be self-sustaining and to do that they need to expand to appeal to an international audience, to differentiate themselves, and to have a brand that gives them an edge over their competitors. Commercially the club belongs to them and they have the right to do as they please with their asset.
It is not known publicly at this stage which factors have been considered by the Membership Committee, and which factors will prove influential for the Council. Might I suggest one point that ought to be included in the mix if it isn't already. The Premier League Financial Regulations put the onus on clubs to be self-sustaining, not loss making. They encourage the sort of ‘business minded’ rather than ‘donation minded’ approach, which is being proposed here. In business the decision over a rebranding exercise can be equally divisive but those who will stand or fall on the financial and commercial success of the venture take the final decision.
I would be the first to say that football is much more than just business, it is because of that that I want to see clubs prosper financially and avoid the depressingly common spectre of administration. Hull City fans are rightly proud to be ‘City till they die’ but in the international community saying that you support ‘City’ may to lead to an initial assumption that you support Manchester City – surely that risk alone merits consideration of the name change!
If the business case for changing the name is sound and football clubs must work towards balanced books under the Premier League Financial Regulation is there an argument that the proposed refusal is irrational? Injections of equity from the owner is one element considered by the rules in calculating the level of permissible loss. Owners will be discouraged from injecting equity if key commercial decisions are taken out of their hands. I haven't had the pleasure of seeing the arguments in full or knowing details of The FA Membership Committee recommendation so I look forward to seeing the details when released.
Interestingly a brief look at the history books suggests that when a club moves base it is easier to change the name. Wimbledon FC became the Milton Keynes Dons when they moved in 2002. Arsenal emerged from Woolwich Arsenal when they crossed the Thames. Perhaps if Assem Allam were to relocate the club he would find it easier to rename it. Probably not the result the fans are after…
http://www.lawinsport.com/blog/littleton-chambers/item/the-vanishing-tiger-what-s-in-a-name
THE DEBATE
Perhaps inevitably the debate over the change of name is emotive. The football club was founded in 1904 and picked up the nickname of the Tigers from around 1905. Fans have strongly opposed the change in name using an emotionally charged video4 to argue the case for retaining the name as Hull City, the campaign operates under the banner ‘City till we die’5.
On the other side of the debate Assem Allam and his family claim to have contributed over £74million to the club6 and they have overseen the rescue from administration to top flight football. They say that they need the club to be self-sustaining and to do that they need to expand to appeal to an international audience, to differentiate themselves, and to have a brand that gives them an edge over their competitors. Commercially the club belongs to them and they have the right to do as they please with their asset.
It is not known publicly at this stage which factors have been considered by the Membership Committee, and which factors will prove influential for the Council. Might I suggest one point that ought to be included in the mix if it isn't already. The Premier League Financial Regulations put the onus on clubs to be self-sustaining, not loss making. They encourage the sort of ‘business minded’ rather than ‘donation minded’ approach, which is being proposed here. In business the decision over a rebranding exercise can be equally divisive but those who will stand or fall on the financial and commercial success of the venture take the final decision.
I would be the first to say that football is much more than just business, it is because of that that I want to see clubs prosper financially and avoid the depressingly common spectre of administration. Hull City fans are rightly proud to be ‘City till they die’ but in the international community saying that you support ‘City’ may to lead to an initial assumption that you support Manchester City – surely that risk alone merits consideration of the name change!
If the business case for changing the name is sound and football clubs must work towards balanced books under the Premier League Financial Regulation is there an argument that the proposed refusal is irrational? Injections of equity from the owner is one element considered by the rules in calculating the level of permissible loss. Owners will be discouraged from injecting equity if key commercial decisions are taken out of their hands. I haven't had the pleasure of seeing the arguments in full or knowing details of The FA Membership Committee recommendation so I look forward to seeing the details when released.
Interestingly a brief look at the history books suggests that when a club moves base it is easier to change the name. Wimbledon FC became the Milton Keynes Dons when they moved in 2002. Arsenal emerged from Woolwich Arsenal when they crossed the Thames. Perhaps if Assem Allam were to relocate the club he would find it easier to rename it. Probably not the result the fans are after…
Like so many others writing about the matter she hasn't a clue the whole business is about Allam not getting his way with Hull City council.
Eyup ****
Why would you refer to an ex player as an "ex ****"? Especially one with the history Windass has. You wouldn't have if you'd ever seen him play. If you'd supported the club in those days you'd understand.
****tard ****, no passion, loyalty or soul. PLW.
This article is from March 2014 and she states "If the business case for changing the name is sound ". What business case ? hulltigersindia?