Premier League Thread

Henry deserved it.

Also a classic case as to why there should be increased oversight of refs performances.

 

I thought a yellow for both would have been OK. The tackle was baddish. It looked worse than it was. And Routledge's response was to get up, look aggressive, and then tap Henry's buttock with his foot.

Then again, you're the ref.

 

Worth discussing this again?

http://www.not606.com/threads/referees.286728/page-3

 

Lawrenson had it right on Final Score yesterday. By the time all the whining about the decision is done with, they could have very easily got a decision from the video ref.

 

Indeed. I also think it should be for all potential penalty decisions. I would go one step further and use it as a way to remove the nonsense about if there is contact the player has a right to go down.
I would allow a ref to judge whether the contact would have impeded or did impede the player or whether the player Could have stayed up.

It makes me rage when players like fabregas come out to the media as say "there was contact" rather than "he tripped me". The latter is of course true but it is the former that is ingrained in a players head and shoulders not be the case!

It may still lead to inconsistency but would make more sense. Especially if you can hear the conversation between the ref and the tmo like in rugby and the ref asks clearly "was the contact enough for him to fall the way he did". If no he then asks - "from the replay has the player tried to gain an unfair advantage" etc.

As long as it can be heard how the decision is arrived at then you cannot complain. May have to cap the number of times it can be watched. Also clock would have to be stopped for such instances

 

Everyone assumes the game stops...if the ref doesn't see it as a pen and the ball is played out of the area it can't be reviewed without stopping the game. If it turns out that the ref was right, the defending team may have lost an advantage. Or the attacking team may assume they are getting a review and have stopped...what then happens if a goal is scored at the other end. Believe me, the managers would just have found something else to argue about...my players stopped, it's not fair And if you watch people arguing in the studio about handballs, deliberate or not, you will realise that videos aren't always clear cut.

The only time I will say this, but I agree with Blatter on this...football isn't like the other games that use the review system. This is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

 

I hadn't considered that Fran. Excellent point that has made me reconsider my stance.

I still think something needs to be done on diving. Issue of course if what decisions would go to retrospective panel. I would say any that lead to a significant unfair advantage - penalty, free kick within say 30 yards of goal (maybe less) or attempting to get a player sent off.

The latter is probably a tricky one and may have to be restricted to all actual red card decisions being reviewed for the reaction of the "victim". So whilst an unsuccessful attempt would not be punished a deterrent is still there as successful cheating would 've part of the review

 

Of course a 5th official in a box, could quite easily review this without the referee on the pitch doing so. While everyone is arguing etc, he/she could be quickly reviewing it and then speaking to the ref via a mic.... seconds to do it. If he really can't decide, they stick to the on field ref's original decision.

 

Yeah this seems like the best solution. Should eliminate the real howlers and the system can be reviewed every now and then. Once something is in place other ways to improve decisions might become more obvious.

 

Anyone getting pissed off with SSN?........anyone would think Gerrard had died with all the coverage.....I would understand if it was a slow news day.....but we had a full premier league fixture list played yesterday.....

 

The answer is that all of them should go to a retrospective panel as well as all fouls, cards etc. This BS of 'If the referee has dealt with something' should be forgotten and a panel should correct etherything that happens whether the ref saw it or not. So rescind cards where they were given incorrectly, implement cards where they weren't including for diving, simulation or feigning injury to stop counter attacks.

 

Podolski gone to Inter Milan for the rest of the season.
Dave King bought shares in Rangers (not PL and in Scotland, but what the heck).
Alan Pardew taking training at Palace, but not officially manager yet.

 

So I come in from work, and SSN are STILL going on about Steven Gerrard. FFS.

 

Shaw injured again.

 

Aww, great shame. We'll just have to beat them without him.

 

I understand a little coverage, but he is neither dead nor retired. He will still be on the pitch for their next game.

 

Has someone painted his belly yellow?

 

Not enough paint I am afraid

 

Strange that he was talking Utd up after the Stoke draw & pointing out how good it was to be back & injury free. Bizarre.

 

I thought they substituted him in the first half injured...