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The Breakfast debate

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  1. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

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    The real issue with the Newcastle model isn't that it doesn't work because it does. It's about not wanting what the fans want because the model means just spending enough and doing enough to stay in the top flight. By doing this you make a profit unlike the majority, and you only spend peanuts for 3rd rate players who are just good enough to keep you up. WBA have been doing this for years and are now panicking so have turned to Pullis to save them. Right now I would settle for for just doing enough to stay in this league, but I'm afraid it looks bleak now.

    No matter who we bring in or promote to the first team, Redders will not know how to save us and so yet another season goes by.
     
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  2. MIGHTY

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    DOESNT matter how many managers you change how many players you change or how much anything you change until you change the owner your problem will always be with you <ok>
     
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  3. ellandback

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  4. ellandback

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    Financier Andrew Umbers - one of the men who helped to arrange the sale of Leeds United by Ken Bates to Gulf Finance House in 2012 - has joined the board at Elland Road.

    Umbers’ appointment as a club director increases the size of Leeds’ board to seven and follows on from the arrival of Matt Child as United’s chief operating officer last month.

    Umbers came to prominence in Leeds two years ago when, as director of Eurofin Capital, he advised Bates on the sale of his stake in United to GFH.

    Speaking at the time, Umber said the 100 per cent takeover by the Bahraini investment bank would create “the right legacy to build on the prudent stewardship of Ken Bates.”

    Eurofin was employed by Bates to find a buyer for his shares and both the firm and Umbers remained involved at Elland Road during GFH’s 16 months as owner, a period in which the bank sought to sell a majority shareholding.

    Current owner Massimo Cellino bought a 75 per cent stake from the bank in April of this year and Umbers has acted as an advisor for much of the Italian’s time in charge of Leeds.

    Cellino has now sanctioned his appointment to the Elland Road board, giving Umbers a remit which will see him focus on the financial side of United’s operations.

    Umbers joins a list of directors which already included Cellino, the Italian’s two sons - Edoardo and Ercole - and Daniel Arty, Cellino’s American financial advisor.

    All five represent Eleonora Sport Limited, the company Cellino used to buy Leeds from GFH.

    GFH, which still controls a 25 per cent stake in United, has two directors at Elland Road. Salem Patel has been on the board since the bank’s takeover in December 2012 while Jinesh Patel, CEO of Dubai-based GFH Capital, was named as a director in July.
     
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  5. ristac

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    I have supported Leeds since I was 5 or 6 years old, I am now 47 so I do not class myself as fair weather. I have seen some good times and some awful ones. All I have done this season was give my honest opinion, although it was a negative opinion I hoped I was wrong.

    I turned on the TV yesterday and hoped for a win, I hoped we would play some decent football but deep down I expected exactly what I saw, a defeat and a team looking non interested and clueless.
     
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  6. Eireleeds1

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  7. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Agreed... it's not like you didn't warn us.
     
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  8. Eireleeds1

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    Ok let's change him so. What's the first step. Do we advertise him on eBay and maybe get a new buyer there as well?
     
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    I have to say this why are you so against a man who is trying to move the club forward and unlike the previous lot wants the club to progress
     
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  10. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Because he hasn't got the talent to deliver, and worse than that his antics are taking the clubs name are making even more of a laughing stock. If just 1% of me thought he had a chance of succeeding I wouldn't be so down on him...


    Despite all the evidence to the contrary why have you got any faith in him. His selected players are poor, his management choices are useless. And they way he conducts himself is a joke.
     
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  11. FORZA LEEDS

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    I'm not against Cellino and I do believe he has the club's best interests at heart, but who in their right mind would spend millions purchasing the club and taking on the debt but then installing Dave Hockaday as coach?

    It made no sense whatsoever to employ him. Milanic was a few steps up in class but was afforded no time to implement his ideas. Then it's another cheap option with the appointment of Redfearn.

    It's like buying a 5 star restaurant and employing a burger flipper to run it.
     
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  12. ellandback

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    Good analogy.
     
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  13. ellandback

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    I was wondering why everyone in the South stand were all standing. Its cheaper!!!!!!
     
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  14. EIO

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    He is out of contract at the end of the season...........
    He is 29 years old..
    How much will he cost ?

    Looks like a free transfer to me, to lighten your wage bill
     
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  15. Eireleeds1

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    Even a free transfer is way beyond you're budget. You'd still have to supply him with kit and boots so you're in overspend there
     
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  16. EIO

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    Maybe Massimo will throw in kit and boot money with the deal
     
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  17. TC (Lovely Geezer)

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    & a few Jamaican bananas
     
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  18. ellandback

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    The ticket prices relate to 1981/82. Leeds prices were really reasonable.

    Infact Div 1 Leeds were a lot cheaper than Div 3 Millwall, and a Leeds season ticket was half the price of Millwall
     
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  19. EIO

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    That is when you still had outside toilets in West Yorkshire
     
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