Definately, and I don't believe it's down to the players, other than some not having the quality. The reason rests fairly and squarely with the Manager, Coaches and their tactics.
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Definately, and I don't believe it's down to the players, other than some not having the quality. The reason rests fairly and squarely with the Manager, Coaches and their tactics.
Don't worry mate, I don't
He's been out for a long time, first game back and he will get better when he's more match fit imo.
My grief is just that I don't see any gain in it for us slagging new players off before they have hardly kicked a ball for us.
But as Sussex says, the negativity has mainly been on the message boards and not in the stands.
This is now one of the worst away records ever in the Premier League. Are we supposed to be happy?
One good season doesn't make Mutch a good player. He looks very slow, lazy and weak to me.
Green was kicking like a non-league keeper, but to be fair, it was a great save from Naismith's header, only for it to go in off Ned!
The problem is that our poor away form will put more and more pressure on our home games.
My post had nothing to do with our away form. The less said about it the better.
It was about how quickly we jump on the new players backs. We expect and demand instant success. Unless you sign the Cristiano Ronaldo's of this world you will rarely get it. The instant bashing can't help, surely you can see this too?
It wasn't an attack on you, don't take it personally mate. I'm fed up with the negativity and will use my right to speak up against it.
So 8 straight away loses is the fans fault? The fans react to performances, and are, in my view, usually amazingly generous. What we have is a team which is actually trying but is very short on quality. It's quite obvious where the blame lies. It's the coaches' job to improve the players, give them confidence, play them in a system which maximises their strengths and minimises their weaknesses.
I know Hoilett, Phillips, Fer, Isla, Yun, Vargas are better players with more potential than their performances for QPR have shown - because they have all shown it in glimpses, but never consistently.
I think Austin, Dunne, Hill and Henry all perform consistently at or near their potential, although Charlie could get even better.
Barton is also performing at the peak of his powers but as he is a terrible footballer that doesn't help much.
I like Ned but I'm afraid he's not very good.
Caulker - undecided. I think he might be ok.
Ferdinand - clearly a disastrous decision to get him in, no matter what he adds on the training ground.
Mutch - who knows - average/poor performances and injury is all I've seen. I still don't know what position he is meant to play in, and neither, it seems, does Redknapp.
Zamora - actually a very good footballer who has never delivered consistently wherever he has played and its too late now. Quite sad, this bloke has the ability to bully defences.
Nico - a class act with limitations, but for me must aways play.
Green - can be great, something wrong with his distribution sometimes. I'd have no problem with giving McCarthy a run, we have let in 30 goals.
No comment of the ones who never and will never play. Except in cup games.
From what I saw tonight we tried hard, had better intent, but a papier mache central midfield gave the game to an out of form Everton. I think the squad, if all performing near their best, is good enough to stay up, but we haven't got a hope with this away form.
Where in that post did I comment on our away losses? Tackle the post not the man please.
OK, Mutch is clearly a worse player for QPR than you think he was for Cardiff (frankly I didn't notice him, I was following QPR in the championship last season) because he has been **** for us.
Which players have improved since joining QPR over the last 4 seasons?
I think it is naive and vaguely insulting to blame fans posting their views on a message board for the form of professional footballers.
Have you been to LR this season Ben? The support for the team has been absolutely outstanding. From what I hear, also on the road. Opposition fans, managers and players have commented on it.
But it's just opinions and only a stupid game.
I know mate, and very happy to hear it repeated again. Big difference in in attitude in the stands compared to a forum.
I remember Mutch totally outplaying us and running rings around Adel among others when Watford ended our 19 game undefeated run in our promotion season under Warnock. Think he had just turned 19 before that game. But hey, lets judge him before he's had a proper chance to prove himself for us?
I'll admit I didn't see many Cardiff games last season but in the ones I did see he looked quality (followed them vaguely because of Solskjaer). His goals where top drawer, screamers like Barkleys tonight. Don't ask me though, ask the Cardiff fans, they didn't care much for losing Caulker but was gutted to see Mutch go.
- Haydn Gleed, Cardiff fan:
“I am gutted. From the first time I saw him play for City against Newcastle in a pre-season friendly a couple of years ago, it was obvious this lad was something special. He has pace, an eye for a pass, strength, a hell of a strike on him with both feet the lot. In short, you don’t get players like him coming along very often. The only issue he had was his unfortunate knack of picking up niggling injuries.
“It seems now that his ability is being appreciated further afield, and Harry Redknapp certainly knows a good player when he sees one. Out of all the exit’s this summer, this one will hurt the most. For what a fully fit Jordon Mutch can bring to the table is irreplaceable. Fraizer Campbell we have Adam Le Fondre, Steven Caulker we could possibly have Fonte, Gary Medel we have Peter Whittingham to fill that role in the Championship.”
http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/35623/qpr-continue-to-buck-recent-trend-with-mutch-capture
“I am gutted. From the first time I saw him play for City against Newcastle in a pre-season friendly a couple of years ago, it was obvious this lad was something special. He has pace, an eye for a pass, strength, a hell of a strike on him with both feet the lot. In short, you don’t get players like him coming along very often. The only issue he had was his unfortunate knack of picking up niggling injuries.
“It seems now that his ability is being appreciated further afield, and Harry Redknapp certainly knows a good player when he sees one. Out of all the exit’s this summer, this one will hurt the most. For what a fully fit Jordon Mutch can bring to the table is irreplaceable. Fraizer Campbell we have Adam Le Fondre, Steven Caulker we could possibly have Fonte, Gary Medel we have Peter Whittingham to fill that role in the Championship.”
http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/35623/qpr-continue-to-buck-recent-trend-with-mutch-capture
It wouldn't surprise me to hear that Tim Howard got through two packs of Panatella Cigars during that game. Whilst a few on here feel that we've made a 'better fist of it' than we've done in this season's away performances, that's because we've been so ****, that any slight improvement even though it's still poor is deemed acceptable. A rather weird and inverted 'Stockholm Syndrome' if you like.
The problem is the mindset from the outset. We managed to get the ball further up the pitch on a few occasions in the first half an hour but lacked the cutting edge. It was like the pretty tennis player from a decade ago Anna Kournikova, easy on the eye, but never won anything.
I blame Harry. The reason for this is, is that no matter who he plays and in what formation they just don't cut it. It doesn't matter if we play 4-5-1, 4-4-2 or 3-4-2-1 or whatever the personnel, the performances remain the same. This is down to the manager and his lackadaisical approach to the game. When you're a team in our position and with our away record you need a side that will roll their sleeves up, battle, bawl each other out, run those hard yards and show some ****ing bottle. Stop pissing about with the passing in and around their box, get a shot off early doors.. It was a wet and greasy pitch.. and preferably on target. The shots that we did have, well that's another matter altogether. I can't recall Howard having to do much.
When they scored we lacked character and seemed to accept the inevitable. It's not acceptable for all of us to feel that Everton were more likely to score a second than us equalise. Again, this is down to the mindset of the team, squad and club as a whole. Why do we always allow other sides that are a bit off colour to empower themselves back into form?
Someone like Sean Dyches would get more out of our team than Harry does at a fraction of the cost and with a fraction of the ability of our squad. He has a plan when he approaches games too.
All I can say is that I'm so grateful to Steve Black. Imagine what our away performances would be like without him?
The problem is the mindset from the outset. We managed to get the ball further up the pitch on a few occasions in the first half an hour but lacked the cutting edge. It was like the pretty tennis player from a decade ago Anna Kournikova, easy on the eye, but never won anything.
I blame Harry. The reason for this is, is that no matter who he plays and in what formation they just don't cut it. It doesn't matter if we play 4-5-1, 4-4-2 or 3-4-2-1 or whatever the personnel, the performances remain the same. This is down to the manager and his lackadaisical approach to the game. When you're a team in our position and with our away record you need a side that will roll their sleeves up, battle, bawl each other out, run those hard yards and show some ****ing bottle. Stop pissing about with the passing in and around their box, get a shot off early doors.. It was a wet and greasy pitch.. and preferably on target. The shots that we did have, well that's another matter altogether. I can't recall Howard having to do much.
When they scored we lacked character and seemed to accept the inevitable. It's not acceptable for all of us to feel that Everton were more likely to score a second than us equalise. Again, this is down to the mindset of the team, squad and club as a whole. Why do we always allow other sides that are a bit off colour to empower themselves back into form?
Someone like Sean Dyches would get more out of our team than Harry does at a fraction of the cost and with a fraction of the ability of our squad. He has a plan when he approaches games too.
All I can say is that I'm so grateful to Steve Black. Imagine what our away performances would be like without him?
For the record I'm Pro Redknapp but sadlyI agree with nearly all of that (not sure about the fans thing).
There must e a problem somewhere because numerous managers have tried and failed in the Prem with us, COLIN, Hughes & now Redknapp. I havent the faintest idea what it is but i do think we have the basis of a decent team. We...Sorry our management f-ed up all mightily by not getting another striker and by sellling Simpson. How the hel we expect Charlie to do it all is beyond me and Vargas just hasnt ot it going yet in regards to scoring goals.
As much as i like Dunne and Hill, surely somewhere out there there has to be a better option doesnt there? Im not puttin ghtem down in anyway but when the oppo see a team sheet that says either Dunne, Hill, or Rio then they must just laugh.
I think this transfer window is going to be the make or break of our partnership with Harry. He has to get it right this time or he'll be gone. The excuses have run out and the focus is squarely on the management team. Time for them to get it right (again i might add
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QPR only team in England without away point
Rangers' travel sickness
Queens Park Rangers are only the second team in Premier League history to lose their opening eight away matches in a season, after Bolton in 1995-96 who lost their first nine.
QPR manager Harry Redknapp: "We played well. I thought there was really something in the game for us but then there was a great strike by Ross Barkley, although a deflection carried it into the net and then there was another deflection for the free-kick.
"The third goal was important because I thought there was an edgy atmosphere tonight, the players were edgy but we gave away a bizarre goal for the third.
"You need a little luck sometimes and it went their way a little bit tonight. I have no doubts we will get points away from home."
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30373609
Rangers' travel sickness
Queens Park Rangers are only the second team in Premier League history to lose their opening eight away matches in a season, after Bolton in 1995-96 who lost their first nine.
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QPR manager Harry Redknapp: "We played well. I thought there was really something in the game for us but then there was a great strike by Ross Barkley, although a deflection carried it into the net and then there was another deflection for the free-kick.
"The third goal was important because I thought there was an edgy atmosphere tonight, the players were edgy but we gave away a bizarre goal for the third.
"You need a little luck sometimes and it went their way a little bit tonight. I have no doubts we will get points away from home."
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30373609
Pretty much this...
Why are we turning capable players who have done well elsewhere into shyte players barely capable of anything other than sideways passes? Phillips, Hoilett, Mutch, even Vargas and Isla looked poor last night.
I can't put my finger on it but there is a malaise in our club that just won't go away...