I may have got this wrong!!!

You know what... I have got this wrong!! I should stick by my club, even when we are playing rubbish, cos we wont play rubbish forever!! Pardew got us up to 5th in the league, so he must be doing something right! He may not be the best manager in the world, but..... the players love him and are willing to lay down their bodies for him... I used to be a pardew hater.... but ..you know what..??? he has gone through so much hatred from the fans.. and still kept his pride going. most people would have just rolled over and died.. fair play to the guy.. Go on Alan... Prove us all wrong!!! You may become the best manager we never liked!!!!

 

I'm all for giving him a second chance... but...... in the last 12 months we've been one of the worst teams in the prem...fact.... plus I have the image ingraned in my head of him headbutting Meyler.... an unforgiveable blight on our club.
Great we are doing so well and I'm loving supporting the Toon right now.. it no longer feels like a chore.
There has to be more consistent results and more importantly more consistent behaviour from him off the pitch before I'll personally review my opinion of him I'm afraid.

 

Yeah too early to go full circle, loads hangs on the derby game as to whether he get's the chance to fully win fans around. If we beat Sunderland, most will be happy to have him to the end of the season and if by the end of the season we're comfortably in the top 10 and don't have any major 10 plus game slumps then I'd probably be happy to have him here next season. However, if we crash out to Spurs, lose to Sunderland and fall at the first hurdle in the FA Cup (again) then me and many others will want him gone.

All this good run has done has earned him time, time to show that he can get the team to play consistenly rather than in huge peaks and troughs.

 

Will never go full circle on him. Will always hate everything he has done and the torture he has put us through with the results, lies, excuses, and arrogance. The best word to use is "content." I can put up with him if he continues to shut up and win games. We all know what good form can suddenly turn into within a short period; let's not get ahead of ourselves!

 

Still needs to go! 95% of our games be it it loss, draw or win the football has been dire, predictable and one dimensional. To his credit however, over the last 4 years he has got it spot on in about 5 games, round of applause!

 

I'll stay consistent. He is not the best, he is not the worst, he is an average manager who has an up and down record since arriving. Some of this is down to his own deficiencies, clearly a large part is down to how we are run as a club. Any manager working in this period is very difficult to assess as they don't get a clear run of things.

However using my patented "how good a manager is he" predictor, Alan comes out as average.

The season we came 5th he clearly overachieved. The year we flirted with relegation he clearly underachieved. Last season he over achieved for half the season, then underachieved in the other half. This half season we are over achieving again. There is no consistency and you could easily point to the reasons behind the downturn in fortunes. Last year he has the Cabaye rug pull, the year before you had the Demba rug pull and a weak squad to deal with the extra games. However you also have to be critical about the challenges he faces and how he has dealt with them.

Obviously what would be very interesting is if he was given the resource to have a go like say a Sir Bobby or KK was. What could he achieve. I think we play quite technical football now with pace and I'm much happier watching us this season. If I look at the first half of last season we were good to watch too. Slightly different of course because we had a sitting playmaker in Cabaye rather than a roaming one like Moussa. The season we came 5th we were good to watch. The other periods we were terrible. This is what gives people ammunition to say "he doesn't have defined style". I now consider this to be utter ****e to be honest. He does have a defined style. It is fast counter attacking football played on the deck. Unfortunately when you take key components out of any managers squad, their defined style suffers. That's why they sign those types of players! I think he has done quite well to adapt his counter attack this season to negate the loss of Cabaye. I like it, and we actually have more possession strangely. When you add in the mass squad overhaul and how quickly he has negotiated that challenge, and the young players he has nurtured, then its been quite an impressive start, particularly under extreme scrutiny.

I suppose his big problem is many people don't like the man. This forever colours their opinions of his achievements and positives in my personal opinion. Don't get me wrong we've had god awful runs as ACS noted, but I tend to cut managers slack working under this regime. The periods in question are against a background of problems elsewhere in the club - i.e. transfer strategy. I just think it is always overlooked that the single most important commodity in any football is still the players. So your trading of them and timing of it is absolute crucial to your results.

 

Disagree completely! We were average and were saved in the first half by Ba and in the second half wonder goals from Cisse. The actual other 88 minutes of the games were dire. Apart from 1 or 2 matches!

 

That is simply not true. In the first half of the season we were excellent defensively. In the first 11 matches we conceded 8 goals. We did not lose a game. We were not brilliant to watch attacking wise at times, and we were direct at times. However players being fully committed to the cause and chucking themselves in the way to block and working their socks off is great to watch. The second half the season contained a 6 game winning streak and we played some belting football. Cisse did score a lot of goals in that spell but by no means "saved us". Cabaye and Ben Arfa were absolutely flying. We only conceded once in that 6 game spell.

Lets remember that being good to watch includes both the attacking AND defensive side of football. The ball was kept on the deck as Cabaye orchestrated, Ben Arfa weaved and Cisse finished. The atmosphere inside the ground was electric at times. The 3-0 vs Man U was fairly direct stuff, but it was great to watch and as a football fan you couldn't ask much more in terms of atmosphere. The feel good factor the fans that season was very high.

 

Not denying the defensively qualities that season (still down to more luck in my opinion then Pardew) but the quality of the football playing was dreadful! Having a team batter us for 70-80 minutes per game and then nick a goal to win is not good football in my opinion. Yes the defence did wonders but the rest of it was terrible.

 

Well I agree. This is a fair assessment. Honestly right now I am enjoying watching us. I can see we are set up to beat the team in front of us. Occasionally it doesn't work as well as some other times. It happens. But the main thing is everyone is putting in the effort. We are all trying again. I will just reserve judgment right now and see how we go.

 

Support the team, not the regime.
Pardew is a puppet.

 

Pardew could sh!t gold bullions and give them to every bugger that went to the matches and people would still hate the bloke.

I'll go one above Gully and say Pardew is a good manager.

 

Pardew is a good manager !!! His record over 4 YEARS doesn't bear this out and the occasional mini run won't make him one. Just think about our form since last December and at any other club in the FA he'd have had the old tin tack.
We need consistency and better forward planning before I'd consider him a half decent manager and remember he only started winning when due to injuries to some of his favourites he had to throw the " kids " in and outcasts like Obertan and they surprised him no end.

 

I'm reserving judgement. A cracking run that we are on, but whether we can maintain even half decent form over the next month is abig question. Pardew has proved he can pull together some decent runs, and fair play to him, but he has also shown he can lose the plot in spectacular fashion. I'm enjoying this moment, and Pardew deserves more credit than some are giving him here. I think if he wins the derby then that will give us something concrete to work with.

 

Who was it that said

" I come not to praise Pardew but to bury him "

 

Youu're the expert on all things black and white you closet mag.

 

A few decent results don't change anything. Continue for the rest of the season and get two derby wins [to make up for the previous ****e], then I may reconsider.

 

As a group, you aren't the best for rating managers. Ie king kev, wanting rid of Sam allardyce, Robson etc.

He's very much Ashley's man is pardew. Its like getting your groceries delivered and blaming the bloke in the van when they swap something and you aren't happy with what they sent.

 

Are youuuu sure

 

A noteworthy attempt