Bruceys Contradiction

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How about we could be good enough if the right players were played in the right positions in the right formations? Both Sunderland and Swansea finished above us last season and it is a real folly to compare results, as I recall it was a December loss against Sunderland that triggered our last relegation season. I do not like being beaten at any sport, but I can accept it; what I do not accept is a very well paid football manager giving me bullshit excuses and patronising explanations.

The season we got relegated we didn't play Sunderland in December, it was the year we stayed up.

I don't care what Steve Bruce says in his interviews. We had £40 million worth of debt from the last time we were in the Premier League and we have assets and income similar to Burnley. We have had no youth development for years which means all our players have to be bought. Some will be successful, other won't be. So if Steve Bruce says that, then its true.

WBA have been in the Premier League longer then us and benefited from being a yo-yo club before that. The spine of their team was Foster, Lescott and Anichebe, plus they have Sessegnon. Before they played us they lost to West Ham, Arsenal, Chelsea and Newcastle United.

I thought we played well and I'm happy with the point. It gives us a two match unbeaten run and keeps us a point behind them.

As you say there are no givens in football, we could have attacked all match, created chances and lost. It would have been entertaining, but we survived last season by being tight at the back. I don't remember much entertaining attacking football. Even the first half against Fulham at home was dire.
 
He is absolutely right; its how we perform against the teams around us and near the bottom of the league that will define were we finish. So yesterday we came up against a team also under performing, and with the worst away record in the league. Afterwards all Brucey would talk up is that we've stopped the rot and created a couple of good chances and that he was happy to take a point and move on! Surely yesterday if ever there was the right opportunity, was the game to be more offensive, 3 points was there for the taking against another team lacking confidence. Yet I can't help reflecting and thinking that we never looked capable of going for the three points; the target seemed more not to lose the one we started with. Big let down.

Two points dropped, not one gained in my personal view. Brucey, you contradicted yourself yesterday!

I'm sure better performances are ahead, but then again that won't be too difficult based on yesterday.
He had to stop the rot first and foremost, and two draws is better than two defeats. I don't understand why people think we have so many attacking options, we have Ben Arfa and Ramirez and they are both failures with us so far, Bruce has to use the players to do the job and they are all defence minded, like it or lump it
 
He had to stop the rot first and foremost, and two draws is better than two defeats. I don't understand why people think we have so many attacking options, we have Ben Arfa and Ramirez and they are both failures with us so far, Bruce has to use the players to do the job and they are all defence minded, like it or lump it

A loss at Everton and beating WBA would have been better.
 
Because the next one hasn't been announced yet. You do know how awards work don't you? <doh>

Sure, You just seem to be living in the past, continuing to relive old glories.

Fair play to you.

Btw, thanks for the 6 easy points last season, we'll be looking forward to the same this year.
 
Sure, You just seem to be living in the past, continuing to relive old glories.

Fair play to you.

Btw, thanks for the 6 easy points last season, we'll be looking forward to the same this year.

Which we can gloat about because this seasons points haven't been awarded yet have they?
 
The season we got relegated we didn't play Sunderland in December, it was the year we stayed up.

I don't care what Steve Bruce says in his interviews. We had £40 million worth of debt from the last time we were in the Premier League and we have assets and income similar to Burnley. We have had no youth development for years which means all our players have to be bought. Some will be successful, other won't be. So if Steve Bruce says that, then its true.

WBA have been in the Premier League longer then us and benefited from being a yo-yo club before that. The spine of their team was Foster, Lescott and Anichebe, plus they have Sessegnon. Before they played us they lost to West Ham, Arsenal, Chelsea and Newcastle United.

I thought we played well and I'm happy with the point. It gives us a two match unbeaten run and keeps us a point behind them.

As you say there are no givens in football, we could have attacked all match, created chances and lost. It would have been entertaining, but we survived last season by being tight at the back. I don't remember much entertaining attacking football. Even the first half against Fulham at home was dire.

Aye, you are right, as I really knew. Just a quickly done, frustrated post; but the principal is the same, don't use past results to gauge what's coming.

You don't care what Steve Bruce says in his interviews? Just what the **** has all of your nonsense about debt got to do with the football he is giving us? What has WBA' s past got to do with our result this weekend? Steve Bruce has a squad and I don't believe he is using it well. It's about the here and now.

There are given's in football, I don't think I said there wasn't; play your players to their best advantage, don't make radical changes, just because you can. Round peg, round hole is a bloody good rule of thumb.

Another good rule of thumb for a manager is don't talk ****e to your supporters, don't make brain-dead excuses for piss-poor team selection and don't fob us off as if we know nowt; leave that to internet experts who can't see the wood for the trees.

Bruce has it wrong, you are in good company. <doh>
 
The game against west brom was a dire performance, sure we defended well, we should do with 3 central midfielders, brucie comes out and talks about beaten teams like west brom! if Mcgregor hadn't f saved that we would of lost 1-0 ....newcastle went at chelsea, pound for pound and only defended when they really had to! and won! .....i expect us to go defensive again against chelsea (fair enough) but against teams, that we should be beating we have to have different tactics to the ones bruce provided on sat! Bitterly Dissapointed!
 
Sure, You just seem to be living in the past, continuing to relive old glories.

Fair play to you.

Btw, thanks for the 6 easy points last season, we'll be looking forward to the same this year.

I live in the past because of a 7 month old sentence in my signature? What are you on? Is this you trying to bully me? <laugh> Grow up mate. <ok>
 
Aye, you are right, as I really knew. Just a quickly done, frustrated post; but the principal is the same, don't use past results to gauge what's coming.

You don't care what Steve Bruce says in his interviews? Just what the **** has all of your nonsense about debt got to do with the football he is giving us? What has WBA' s past got to do with our result this weekend? Steve Bruce has a squad and I don't believe he is using it well. It's about the here and now.

There are given's in football, I don't think I said there wasn't; play your players to their best advantage, don't make radical changes, just because you can. Round peg, round hole is a bloody good rule of thumb.

Another good rule of thumb for a manager is don't talk ****e to your supporters, don't make brain-dead excuses for piss-poor team selection and don't fob us off as if we know nowt; leave that to internet experts who can't see the wood for the trees.

Bruce has it wrong, you are in good company. <doh>

Steve Bruce set us up to get at least a draw with WBA. His team selection reflected that. Quinn and Rosenior are better defensively then Robertson and Brady so they started. He had a 10 or 15 minute spell after Robertson and Brady came on when he tried to nick all three points. We didn't score so we drew and Bruce achieved one of his objectives.

Debt and money have everything to do with it. Its Premier League at all costs. The aim of this season is survival and that means not giving 3 points to relegation rivals by playing open attacking football, especially after a run of defeats.
 
It's a good job the penalty was saved. The positions of players is madness. We're playing football not Wall St, if he were to focus on football strengths and if he showed some confidence in the squad he has assembled, those he speaks to that is, we might see a first eleven taking shape. It's nonsense, he's spoiling players potential to improve or omit others.
 
The team on the pitch in the last 15 mins should have been the starting eleven. They were there for the taking and we only got to them in the last 15. We won't have an easier chance al season. I think the Burnley game frightened
Him.
 
Sure, You just seem to be living in the past, continuing to relive old glories.

Fair play to you.

Btw, thanks for the 6 easy points last season, we'll be looking forward to the same this year.

Great, so when we lose that game he's got that one over you.
 
Bruce also said on Humberside that we need to stick with the team he is still confident we can finish higher than last season, once we get all our players back fit and playing . . . Who are these players? We have Snodgrass injured but we never really had him in the team so we can't be missing him and Diame, I know he's good but if he makes that much difference we are in trouble.