Jack Cork

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Beefy said:
No. The players wanted to move and got their way. Lovren and Lallana chose the be a dick way, we just held out for much as possible. If you really think you can keep a lot of players that want to leave then you are wrong.
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Tbf, the reason why clubs don't keep hold of players under contract is simply because they don't. It just isn't done. Doesn't mean to say it can't be done. Legally, Saints were perfectly entitled to keep every player they had under contract. It just suited their purpose better to allow a few to go for extraordinary money.
 
TheSecondStain said:
Tbf, the reason why clubs don't keep hold of players under contract is simply because they don't. It just isn't done. Doesn't mean to say it can't be done. Legally, Saints were perfectly entitled to keep every player they had under contract. It just suited their purpose better to allow a few to go for extraordinary money.
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it can't be done on the scale we'd have had to do to hold on to everyone.
 
TheSecondStain said:
Tbf, the reason why clubs don't keep hold of players under contract is simply because they don't. It just isn't done. Doesn't mean to say it can't be done. Legally, Saints were perfectly entitled to keep every player they had under contract. It just suited their purpose better to allow a few to go for extraordinary money.
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I think if Lovren and Lallana hadn't have acted how they did, they would still be here.

Shaw was always going.
Chambers went as soon as a bid came in.
Lambert needed replacing anyways(as a first teamer)
 
Sotonist said:
as RK said (can't remember which RK) you can't keep half a squad of disgruntled players. do you think it was workable to risk sending 7 players to train with the kids and field a depleted team all season?

we got good prices for Lallana and Shaw and Lovren made such an arse of him we probably got less than we'd have liked.

chambers is an odd one, beefy thinks it was a release clause.
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Problem though started with lallana. He set example for his teammates. Club allowed it and queue the rest acting like toddlers.

I'm not saying turning down kind of money they have made they should have done but they should have made their players tow the line. My opinion if they had done it with Lallana there might be less players doing same as they would have seen clubs response to such behaviour. It has snowballed since him
 
laurab12 said:
Problem though started with lallana. He set example for his teammates. Club allowed it and queue the rest acting like toddlers.

I'm not saying turning down kind of money they have made they should have done but they should have made their players tow the line. My opinion if they had done it with Lallana there might be less players doing same as they would have seen clubs response to such behaviour. It has snowballed since him
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twatbeard burned his bridges though didn't he. lallana and lovren are villains for that reason.

i absolutely blame lallana for the exodus. him and pochettino. I dislike lovren entirely for his personal conduct.
 
Simple fact is . If others are saying we should have made them stay and rot in the reserves , we do not have the squad depth to do that . Players & agents hold ALL the cards these days . sad but true .......
 
Sotonist said:
it can't be done on the scale we'd have had to do to hold on to everyone.
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Beefy said:
I think if Lovren and Lallana hadn't have acted how they did, they would still be here.

Shaw was always going.
Chambers went as soon as a bid came in.
Lambert needed replacing anyways(as a first teamer)
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I understand the points about peer pressure and players wanting out. My point I'm making [and it's a fine one, I'll admit] is that if players are under contract and there is no release trigger in any of them, the club they play for are legally entitled to keep any and all of them. Which means saying to Lambert, Sorry Rickie, no romantic return... all the way through Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, etc... [with the exception of Chambers if Beefy's info is correct] to Schneiderlin where Koeman said, You're staying, get used to it.

Whether it would have been a wise thing to do is another matter entirely. It would have been possible. So no can't keep the players please. They could have, they just didn't. All in all, I'm happy with the way Saints have gone about their business.
 
Number 1 Jasper said:
Simple fact is . If others are saying we should have made them stay and rot in the reserves , we do not have the squad depth to do that . Players & agents hold ALL the cards these days . sad but true .......
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right. to have lallana, shaw, and lovren at a minimum all sulking would have been incredibly risky.

schneiderlin manageable.

cork and boruc, sadly backup. i think most of us would have been happy to see a decent understudy for boruc come in or an understudy for forster with boruc leaving for first team football. we can't get that though.
 
Think a decent backup for Forster if boruc goes won't happen. They are trying to hang onto boruc at all costs
 
it's difficult to bring in decent back up without overpaying for dross.

sadly our academy is hopeless at producing goalies
 
I'm sure Cork will get games this season though. And not many Prem teams are giving him 30 starts. Palace might be one but they're not that tempting right now. He should wait until January.

Boruc moves to Legia with our best wishes as soon as we identify a 21 ish year old replacement costing less than £3-4m. Anyone know any?
 
Qwerty said:
I'm sure Cork will get games this season though. And not many Prem teams are giving him 30 starts. Palace might be one but they're not that tempting right now. He should wait until January.

Boruc moves to Legia with our best wishes as soon as we identify a 21 ish year old replacement costing less than £3-4m. Anyone know any?
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Why do saints fan think at 34 still wanting to play for Poland that boruc wants to go to legia?

It is a genuine question
 
Qwerty said:
Boruc moves to Legia with our best wishes as soon as we identify a 21 ish year old replacement costing less than £3-4m. Anyone know any?
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It has to be someone who fancies competing with a 26 year old england international who just cost us £10m.

It either has to be an insane optimist or someone who thinks we'll sell forster soon enoguh for their career prospects.
 
Sotonist said:
It has to be someone who fancies competing with a 26 year old england international who just cost us £10m.

It either has to be an insane optimist or someone who thinks we'll sell forster soon enoguh for their career prospects.
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Yeah not easy. If I was a good young GK I wouldn't come here. Inevitable conclusion - Boruc is staying for a year.
 
Le Tissier's Laces said:
He has no right to be aggrieved that the club is doing what it considers to be right for the club, that's the point. He has no entitlement to play, neither does Boruc. So show that you should be the one playing, and if you can't, because you're not good enough, then you accept that position and move when possible. Don't whinge on social media channels.
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Exactly.
 
Qwerty said:
Yeah not easy. If I was a good young GK I wouldn't come here. Inevitable conclusion - Boruc is staying for a year.
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alternative is you pick up someone surplus to requirements at another club or from a lower level who will simply be grateful for the pay packet and doesn't have any realistic chance of challenging for a place in their international side. someone washed up in their late 20s.

not sure there's anything better than kelvin on the market though. newcastle seem to have one in rob elliott.

edit: just realised elliott has been capped by ireland this year... someone ask newcastle how they do it.
 
Sotonist said:
alternative is you pick up someone surplus to requirements at another club or from a lower level who will simply be grateful for the pay packet and doesn't have any realistic chance of challenging for a place in their international side. someone washed up in their late 20s.

not sure there's anything better than kelvin on the market though. newcastle seem to have one in rob elliott.

edit: just realised elliott has been capped by ireland this year... someone ask newcastle how they do it.
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