On BBC website now. Canas and Chico going, going, gone!
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28655286
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28655286
Laudrup is buying Chico Flores!
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Are you implying that things aren't rosyred, even worse that Swansea might be going down this season due to lack of ambition and poor management?
Better stay quiet - it's not a popular opinion on this board!
Michu, Pablo, Pozuelo, Vorm or Siggy, Gomis, Montero, Fabianski which would be regarded as the stronger foursome. My money will be on the latter 4.
Am I the only one who is completely fed up with the pessimism and rampant depression on this board?
Am I the only one who is looking forward to the season with optimism? Gomis and Montero are great signings. Ki looks like he's back in the fold. Siggurdson is back and looking hungry. Fabianski looks like he can actually save the occasional shot and catch the occasional cross, unlike Vorm at the end. Neil Taylor looks good for the season. We've shipped out players who were either unfit or moaning or not very good.
Honestly I really don't know why some people bother posting on here, or watching the swans at all. All you do is complain, gripe, have a swipe at Monk, get duped by the utter ***** in the newspapers. Do you really think you're reflecting the views of the real fans?
Am I the only one who is looking forward to the season with optimism? Gomis and Montero are great signings. Ki looks like he's back in the fold. Siggurdson is back and looking hungry. Fabianski looks like he can actually save the occasional shot and catch the occasional cross, unlike Vorm at the end. Neil Taylor looks good for the season. We've shipped out players who were either unfit or moaning or not very good.
Honestly I really don't know why some people bother posting on here, or watching the swans at all. All you do is complain, gripe, have a swipe at Monk, get duped by the utter ***** in the newspapers. Do you really think you're reflecting the views of the real fans?
Sorry Campion. I may have misread your intent. Of course the papers are not to be depended on.
It's a shame because a lot of those players were very good, and now there aren't that many players in the squad , maybe players are showing resistance and not willing to work, maybe bad management, maybe this or that.. But if it in reality doesn't work between them, it doesn't work. Hope for swansea monk will bring in some decent replacements, because overall the team still has a lot of quality players and should stay up with that squad.
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...if that's what you like. You're in for a surprise at some point.
I'm sorry - but I'm a realist: you remove 4-6 relatively integrated players, WHO all have PL experience; Exchange them with players WHO haven't proved themselves at this level. It's like buying players in the championship and expecting them to perform on a consistent level in the Premier League. you just can't gamble on fx Bartley, N'Gog or (last summers shout) Donnely to keep Swansea competitive.
The issue to be debated is what is the cause of the turnover. We are not, I think, a club that needed to flush and rebuild, but add quality here and there. Why are players of quality leaving, are we getting full value when they leave, and what are we paying, or having to pay, to bring in replacements.
Let's take Fabianski - an unproven Prem level keeper. As a replacement for Tremmel and a challenge for Vorm - great acquisition. But it turns out that he was a replacement for Vorm. Did we get full value for Vorm in the transfer to Spurs. Are we better off having Fab/Trem or Vorm/Fab. We swapped out a World Cup keeper for an Arsenal reserve. At the end of the season it may turn out to be the best swap ever .... but would you bet real money on it right now.
Let's take Fabianski - an unproven Prem level keeper. As a replacement for Tremmel and a challenge for Vorm - great acquisition. But it turns out that he was a replacement for Vorm. Did we get full value for Vorm in the transfer to Spurs. Are we better off having Fab/Trem or Vorm/Fab. We swapped out a World Cup keeper for an Arsenal reserve. At the end of the season it may turn out to be the best swap ever .... but would you bet real money on it right now.
Mikraswans how long have you followed the swans exactly? About 2 years since Laudrup arrived.
I've followed them since the 70s and I can assure you, the times we're experiencing at the moment really are full of joy and happiness.
Hard as it might be to believe, I really am happy to follow my local club. In good times as in bad.
I've followed them since the 70s and I can assure you, the times we're experiencing at the moment really are full of joy and happiness.
Hard as it might be to believe, I really am happy to follow my local club. In good times as in bad.
No doubt the spanish 'clique' were seen as so disruptive last year that Monk/Huw see no alternative than to remove them all from the club. As long as we have players of equal quality taking their place then it might turn out a good thing. We still need a signing or two IMO. If Ash gets injured is the partnership of Bartley and Amat up to Premier league standards? (and that's only if Amat stays)
The same for me and my local Club. That I've followed through good and bad since my early teens in the 1980s. That doesn't mean that I can't shout when FC København fx sells Cornelius to Cardiff, employs a manager (paying huge compensation) just to sack him 6 months later or buys and overpriced attacker WHO doesnt fit FC Københavns system and therefore loan him out before the season even starts.
I can be critical towardes Swanseas managment or players if I see it fit. Maybe easier as my eyes aren't clouded by the rain Falling over Dagenham and Redbridges stadium 23-odd years ago (...and that was a long journey home...).
A team beginning a new season should NEVER be weaker than the one that finished the previous. This Monks Swansea, for now, has the Outlook of a clearly weaker midfield and defence than previous season...
Always support but that doesn't mean we can't question.
Whatever lever we are at being made to look stupid isn't a good feeling and at the moment things are not good.
For all the rumours and back stabbing that went on under Laudrup - he kept his players.
(70s? - Newcomer)
Campiion would be a great Leeds fan ,
Theyre fans allow anything to happen and keep on marching.
Theyre fans allow anything to happen and keep on marching.
For now it's just paper talk, so let's regard it as such. But if we do sell Bony (relaxed asking price) on the cheap and drum out our best defender (Chico) for a truly risible £3.5 million then Monk and Jenkins will have a great deal of explaining to do.
The hypocrisy here is that Monk is culling the so called Spanish clique to protect his own - ivory towers and all that. A clique is a clique and you know what? I don't like cliques of any sort and I certainly don't like them when they are led by a distinctly average journeyman footballer, never remotely good enough to play in the Premier League, who is still unqualified as a coach with everything to prove.
I really hope he actually succeeds as a matter of fact because if he doesn't and gets his arse kicked out of the club, it will mean that my club, which I have supported for longer than Monk has been on this earth, is on a fast track down the table and out of the Premier League. I fervently hope that is not going to happen and that this is all paper talk and speculation.
The hypocrisy here is that Monk is culling the so called Spanish clique to protect his own - ivory towers and all that. A clique is a clique and you know what? I don't like cliques of any sort and I certainly don't like them when they are led by a distinctly average journeyman footballer, never remotely good enough to play in the Premier League, who is still unqualified as a coach with everything to prove.
I really hope he actually succeeds as a matter of fact because if he doesn't and gets his arse kicked out of the club, it will mean that my club, which I have supported for longer than Monk has been on this earth, is on a fast track down the table and out of the Premier League. I fervently hope that is not going to happen and that this is all paper talk and speculation.
Roofjack you'd be a great Swans fan if you weren't such a miserable moaning old git.
Just saying like.
Just saying like.