Off Topic The SIR Kenny Dalglish Public House

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jenners04 said:
true that's the bollocks american influence not t20, my 7 yr old went to a ruddy prom couple of years ago, and we know where that s**te come from as well.
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jenners04 said:
helps if you read properly, i said my 7 yr old had one a couple of years ago ie when she was 5, and where did proms come from then?
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OK... 5 then- sorry... no difference though to my reply... prom comes from word "Promenade" and is a synonym of ball. They've been having Balls in English schools for people in the last year for decades. The word "Prom" is American- but "Ball"s have existed long prior to the US.

They don't have proms for 5 year olds in the US (or at least- it would be considered extremely uncommon if they did)... it's for last year students in high school... same as the traditional "Ball" that high schools have had in England for decades (or sometime Highschool Disco). The US Prom tends to be a gaudy event with more extravagances though.

I know my parents had a "Highschool 'Leavers' Ball" back in their high school days as far back as the 60s...
 
jenners04 said:
getting there sky, liking it <ok>

how many more sessions? i wont ask the cost lol, mind you its mates rates anyway isnt it.

what does the hieroglyphics mean?

no worries dave <ok> put it down to old age <whistle>
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Cheers.

Probably 2 more sessions mate, and then a final short session to make sure everything is complete. It's £50 an hour but I only ever book 3 hours at a time and he always turns it into 4-5 hours without addding any cost, and yeah it's a mate that has his own shop. The going rate for sleeve work down here is between 80-100 an hour. So I'm getting a good deal, although it'll still end up expensive.

But the pictures really don't do it justice, it looks so much better in real life <ok>
 
Milk said:
OK... 5 then- sorry... no difference though to my reply... prom comes from word "Promenade" and is a synonym of ball. They've been having Balls in English schools for people in the last year for decades. The word "Prom" is American- but "Ball"s have existed long prior to the US.

They don't have proms for 5 year olds in the US (or at least- it would be considered extremely uncommon if they did)... it's for last year students in high school... same as the traditional "Ball" that high schools have had in England for decades (or sometime Highschool Disco). The US Prom tends to be a gaudy event with more extravagances though.

I know my parents had a "Highschool Ball" back in their high school days as far back as the 60s...
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i left school in 91 and can tell you it didn't exist back then to my knowledge, but my niece did have one last year and got in the local paper etc.

my recollection of proms is all from an american point of view,if thats misconceived for some reason apologies <ok> why did they change marathon to snickers etc batards :bandit:
 
jenners04 said:
i left school in 91 and can tell you it didn't exist back then to my knowledge, but my niece did have one last year and got in the local paper etc.

my recollection of proms is all from an american point of view,if thats misconceived for some reason apologies <ok> why did they change marathon to snickers etc batards :bandit:
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That's the year my brother finished school. They had them in our school (Weaverham, Cheshire) '5th year ball' was what they called it in our school. (my sister had one two years earlier too). My parents had 'Leavers Balls' (Bath and Brum in the 60's). I didn't... because I left before mine would have been.

Rich people had debutante and coming out balls for people the same age going back hundreds of years though- in all countries.

In America though- the prom is more "all out" - they hire big halls to hold the dances- spend all year planning it. Spend hundreds of $$$s on a dress/tux they'll only wear once. It's all about being gaudy and glitzy and outspending everyone else. Hire limos to take to the dance- go to fancy restaurants before... etc... Then they have big- all night parties after the prom- (because illegal to drink at that age in US... so they go to parties afterwards to get drunk.

I know that side of the Prom - the glitzy all out no expense too much... is distinctly American... and from what I understand- that gaudy/glittery side of "Balls" has made it to the UK.


I've never heard of a 5 year old prom over here. The closest American tradition I can think of is the "Daddy-daughter" dance- where Dads put on a suit, and the girl puts on a dress- and you go dance in the school cafeteria...

... It's cute and you do it for your daughter... but good grief I hate going to that because I KNOW every other song is going to be Justin Bieber or an equivalent singer. My eldest daughter just likes to go... eat a cup cake and leave. Next year my youngest daughter is going to be in Primary school so I'll have to take both... I don't think she'll let me get away as easily.

It's probably like "Chicken Tikka Masala" - a British change to a foreign idea.
 
I left school in 05 and we didn't have a prom, but they had one the following year for the leavers.

They arranged a trip to Thorpe park for our leaving instead.
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Back in your day, weren't so strict on ID's though I bet.. <whistle>
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ID cards were just starting to be introduced so I had to be clever to get in. Often involved being in a large group where they either couldn't see me or didn't want to say no because they'd have missed out on a lot of income.
 
Gerrez said:
One <doh>

I saw the tattoo comments so wanted to see the picture.
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Just realised it was the updated one. Didn't realise Sky had posted another, he posted the original pick about 2 weeks ago and randomly thought you had found that one!
 
Gerrez said:
ID cards were just starting to be introduced so I had to be clever to get in. Often involved being in a large group where they either couldn't see me or didn't want to say no because they'd have missed out on a lot of income.
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Surely being bald, they'd have thought you were at least 30 though <whistle>
 
Gerrez said:
ID cards were just starting to be introduced so I had to be clever to get in. Often involved being in a large group where they either couldn't see me or didn't want to say no because they'd have missed out on a lot of income.
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I rem mine, I was a manager at Boots but on the pic I looked my age, 15 <doh>
 
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