HMRC lose appeal
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Love how it's everybody's else's fault... not Murray not whyte but petrie n lawwell...
Unfuckingbeleivable.
I know ye's are just rippin the pish and that's fine, but in terms of the EBTs all of those ****s were stickin the boot in. No **** cared to let the legal process come to a conclusion before finding us guilty and rattling on about cheating and sporting integrity.
The cloud of the legal process hanging over the club was instrumental in shysters getting a hold of the club. All of those ****s putting the boot in didn't help. The shysters got in and we all know what happened next.
Your club put in place a potentially dodgy tax saving system. No one forced you to. By doing so it gave the club a financial advantage over the rest of Scottish football. None of the people given the loans, as far as we know, has paid them back. As far as I'm concerned Rangers are cheats.
So there.
So there.
The thing is Gambol Murray was so confident he was right all along he offered HMRC £10m to settle before it went to the FTT, and let's not forget that 2 years ago the FTT said this in their report:
"HMRC opened enquiry into the use of the MGRT in January 2004. The progress of the enquiry was protracted and chequered due to key documents being withheld or actively concealed."
http://www.financeandtaxtribunals.gov.uk/judgmentfiles/j6851/TC02372.pdf
The impasse in obtaining information was broken in the autumn of 2007 by a separate enquiry conducted by the City of London Police into Rangers, which had resulted in information being made available to HMRC for the first time, such as the side-letters, from the seized documents related to MGRT.
It would appear that the side-letters were actively concealed in the course of HMRC’s investigation because they answered the central question raised by the enquiry regarding the basis of determining the amounts to be contributed to the main Trust and the sub-trusts. The side-letters also evidence the existence of some form of contractual agreement between the employer and the employees.
Mr Red was an incredible witness. It would appear that he was obstructive in his conduct during the HMRC’s enquiry, and obscurantist in the way he gave evidence on what could be called a ‘virtual reality’, one that conformed to his own understanding of how the trust scheme should have functioned to stay within the bounds of legitimacy as a tax-saving scheme. It would also appear that he tried to influence Mrs Crimson (and possibly Mr Scarlet) in their giving of evidence.
It would appear that the side-letters were actively concealed in the course of HMRC’s investigation because they answered the central question raised by the enquiry regarding the basis of determining the amounts to be contributed to the main Trust and the sub-trusts. The side-letters also evidence the existence of some form of contractual agreement between the employer and the employees.
Mr Red was an incredible witness. It would appear that he was obstructive in his conduct during the HMRC’s enquiry, and obscurantist in the way he gave evidence on what could be called a ‘virtual reality’, one that conformed to his own understanding of how the trust scheme should have functioned to stay within the bounds of legitimacy as a tax-saving scheme. It would also appear that he tried to influence Mrs Crimson (and possibly Mr Scarlet) in their giving of evidence.
This!!!
Why did dodgy Dave offer Hector £10m? Karma, it misses no ****!
Dunno. Mibby he thought it might be an idea to try that as opposed engaging in a lengthy legal process and have that hanging over the club? Just a guess, because I really don't know.
Do you think it's morally right that footballers earning thousands of pounds per week should avoid taxes that the rest of us have to pay?
Do you think it right that a club which prides itself on its Britishness and devotion to Queen and country should be employing schemes that deprive this country of money?
The fitba equivalent of Chamberlain waving the Versailles treaty.
A meaningless victory which is now openly being mocked as it killed the club.
The fitba equivalent of Chamberlain waving the Versailles treaty.
A meaningless victory which is now openly being mocked as it killed the club.
Sadly true.
At the end of the day HMRC are entitled to go after anyone they believe has attempted to avoid or evade tax.
Rangers were clearly used as a test case, which was unfortunate due to the financial situation at the time, and this caused the club to liquidate.
Too many Rangers fans resorting to revisionism though. HMRC went after the club because they believed they had a case, some spastics need to stop seeing Catholic Cabals round every corner.
Rangers were clearly used as a test case, which was unfortunate due to the financial situation at the time, and this caused the club to liquidate.
Too many Rangers fans resorting to revisionism though. HMRC went after the club because they believed they had a case, some spastics need to stop seeing Catholic Cabals round every corner.
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There was a lot of OTT vitriol directed towards Rangers at the time but it's entirely mental to blame the likes of Lawwell, Regan & Petrie for it.
Rangers and it's fans should concentrate on getting the club on stable footing and building a good future. No demanding apologies and chasing pointless vendettas against other teams.
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There was a lot of OTT vitriol directed towards Rangers at the time but it's entirely mental to blame the likes of Lawwell, Regan & Petrie for it.
Rangers and it's fans should concentrate on getting the club on stable footing and building a good future. No demanding apologies and chasing pointless vendettas against other teams.
I agree.
However it is true that these ****s weren't prepared to wait for the legal process to complete. They were putting the boot in from the start.
Not to mention the websites, blogs, atricles, a ****in book and a ****in documentary. All putting the boot in, and all before due legal process was complete.
But, that's the past. Leave it there and move on.