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what's in a name?

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  1. Missing Lambo

    Missing Lambo Well-Known Member

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    Delighted that Gaston set up the winner tonight - but what gives with the shirt name. We have "Gaston" while Uruguay get "G Ramirez". What's that about?

    Anyway, congratulations Gaston. I thought Uruguay had more bite than the Italians tonight. But you must tell us whether Luis prefers his defender al dente or ben cotto. Just so that we can let our boys know before August.
     
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  2. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

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    wasn't it that FIFA insist on the surnames but let Brazil do what they want?
     
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  3. Big_Si

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    I don't know. Maybe it's to do with the length of the name or how its structured doesn't fit into conventional firstname/surnames so they go for a nick name. They just said during the football a Greek players last name is too long to fit on the shirt, so his first name is on there instead.

    Not sure how it works with the name Gaston Ramirez though!
     
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  4. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    No. Lots of other players have nicknames too. Must be down to Uruguayan association.
     
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  5. Dan

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    Bony uses Wilfried B. Javier Hernandez isn't using Chicharito, he's using J Hernandez.
     
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  6. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    Gervinho, James Rodriguez (has just "James"), and Xavi all spring to mind. Must be lots of others.
     
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  7. Big_Si

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    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    "Oooooooooooh Gaston Ramirez" was deemed too long.
     
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  9. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    I asked this question before. At least an opinion can out eventually.

    I notice from the Greece game that all their players with the ..nossessouss style names, still have them on their shirts. One player however, had such a huge and complicated name that he had Lazarus on his back instead. His first name.

    Dare I say that it helped Greece raise themselves from the death..? OK, I know where my coat is.
     
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  10. pass the football

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  11. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    The other night in the Germany v Ghana game I noticed that Kevin Prince Boateng had "Prince" on his shirt, presumably to distinguish himself from his half-brother Jerome playing for the other side, who wore "Boateng". I'm sure I remember that when he played for Pompey he wore "Kevin", but please correct me. I suppose "Prince" is his father's name, so he is still obeying the surname rule.
     
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  12. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    I think the different kits might be enough to distinguish between the two Boatengs :)

    He wears "Prince" on his shirt for Milan too, incidentally.

    Also I think we've established there is no "surname" rule.
     
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  13. It’s Only A Game

    It’s Only A Game Well-Known Member

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    Makes sense.It would be less confusing than having shirts with all the same surname on it.
     
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  14. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    Ok, I think this document clears it up once and for all: http://resources.fifa.com/mm/docume...regulationsfwcbrazil2014_update_e_neutral.pdf

    On page 45:

    So it's really not that restrictive. If Ramirez could convince FIFA that his "popular name" is Gaston (and I doubt they would take much convincing) he could have it on his shirt. So either he or Uruguay have decided that he won't have it, not FIFA.
     
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  15. Big_Si

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    Must have copied the wrong link, meant to have copied the one you posted instead. Point remains the same though.
     
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  16. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Looks like the player, or person responsible for organising such details, just submits a name and that's it. In the case of Uruguay it seems that the names were kept formal and informative, hence G. Ramirez, and/or L. Suarez.
     
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  17. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    England have just never gone down that route. Players happy to use their real names...the use of nicknames could throw up some interesting examples...especially if fans got hold of them. <whistle> Might cause confusion as quite a few would have 'Get forward, you lazy bastard.'
     
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  18. ChilcoSaint

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    I miss Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink.
     
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  19. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Need big shoulders to carry that off.
     
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  20. RickieLambertsGoldenBoot

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    Ravel Morisson has Ravel on his shirt.

    Oh dear.
     
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