I have to laugh at all the bullshit the players and the club come out with this time of the season. It would make a refreshing change for them just to say what is actually happening. I mean rumours were abound that Vorm was going before next season. Then Monk signs Fabianski out of the blue. Lets be honest a keeper is not the priority position we need to be looking at if Vorm or Tremmell were staying. Then both club and player come out with statements along the lines of competition for places etc. Vorm makes me laugh with the statement he gave the press as though this is a massive shock to him and he had no idea they were doing this oh come on please!!!. Why cant they just say look Vorm is looking at leaving this summer so we have bought a replacement in readiness for this outcome. Tired of them taking us fans for mugs with all this cloak and dagger crap when it comes to signing/selling players!!
So you'd rather they came out and said Vorm is deffo for sale and possibly lose a mill or two on his sale. Imagine the comments on here if that happened - "Amateurs" "Conference level board" "Chumps" etc.
He cant or the club cant say anything yet as its not a done deal. negotiations will be taking place not just for vorm but for others also. The transfer window is not open yet and vorm and the club would look a bit of a tit if negotiations broke down....The only truth at the moment is that there are rumors he is moving on and not the fact that he is moving on...
I am not saying they need to say he is up for sale (like some second hand car salesman). What I am saying is they dont need to come out with the bullshit as if they have no plans on selling him or Tremmell. That is all. Lets be honest those clubs that are interested must already know whether he is available or not dont you think?
As for whether peoples comments on here about whether they think they are chumps, amateurish etc because of the decisions they make I dont think that is foremost in their mind when they release statements in fact I can say with most certainty that HJ and MM dont even know about what most is said on any forum and wouldnt care even if they did.
MICHEL Vorm insists he will not necessarily leave Swansea City this summer despite the arrival of Lukasz Fabianski. The Polish keeper signed a four-year-contract after leaving Arsenal earlier this week, prompting many to deduce that rumours linking Vorm with a move away will come to fruition. Liverpool have been the side most closely linked to Vorm, with talk of a £5 million switch to Anfield. But Vorm stresses there is no definite interest from any other club, and he may well start next season battling for the Swansea No.1 shirt. âI didnât know they were planning to sign him, I can honestly tell you,â Vorm told reporters in Holland. âBut at Swansea City I can see the club is growing and there is competition for everyone and that also applies to me. âFabianski was a free agent, which I understood and he has signed for four years and the present situation is that I will be there after the summer so I have competition. âIt may be that Swansea are already responding to my departure but then there must be (an offer). As long as that is not the case, Fabianski and I will have to fight. I do not necessarily have to leave. âOf course, if I can make a big step then I may do that. We will have to see in the coming weeks.â Vorm was talking ahead of Hollandâs game against Ghana. They also play Wales on Wednesday. He is one of four goalkeepers in a squad that will only contain three for the World Cup. âItâs going well. We have trained a lot in a short period and itâs pleasing. I hope I do not have to worry about which keeper will be cut because since 2009 â when I've been fit â I've been in the Dutch team. I hope that carries on,â he added. âThe advantage I have over the other guys is that I've been part of the squad for some time and I know about being at a World Cup. âBut the fact is that I need to work hard and I will do that.â (ref: http://www.southwales-eveningpost.c...Swansea-City/story-21166433-detail/story.html)
I agree 4 keepers is 1 too many, my guess is vorm will go ! which is a shame cos he's really good. but fabiansky must have come to play first team football.
When a player has an unexpected great season , I like to sell them off to a desperate team looking for a player in his position .He might go onto bigger and better things or be a flop but the money is still in the bank ...its a business as well as entertainment . I would like to sell Vorm for as much as possible , give fab a season and if he does really well , sell him off .
It's been amended since this morning musty but here is the link to check other betting odds. It changes all the time as punters put their bets on going for the best prices. http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/top-goalscorer
Alright fellas! Long time no speak There's a rumour on our Board that Ashley Williams is coming to QPR for a medical. Is it likely or is it ballix?
Who knows , but a step backwards imo if he does but he'll have chance to play alongside his best mate Rio
Sunday, 1 June 2014 Swans new GK saved 100% of PL shots faced in 2013/14! I don't normally do sensationalist headlines, but I couldn't resist that one... A statistical comparison of Michel Vorm, Gerhard Tremmel, and new goalkeeper Lukas Fabianski I tried to start writing this piece yesterday. Honest. Not even a barbecue, plentiful alcohol and interesting conversation could stop me - I came home raring to go and parked my arse in front of my decrepit laptop, fully intending to immerse myself in a world of goalkeeping-related numbers. That was, until I realised that goalkeeping stats are more or less non-existent on the internet. Thankfully, Twitter and Google came to the rescue. A couple of exhaustive searches, and a couple of cheeky tweets to chaps who know a lot more about stats than I do meant that eventually I was in a position to make some kind of relevant comparison between the three Swansea goalkeepers, and if I'm honest the level of stats used in this article is way better than anything I've previously produced. Not that I can claim credit for researching any of the stats mind - that credit must go to Paul Riley (@footballfactman) & @GoalImpact, who very kindly agreed to provide some interesting stats. I also found some comprehensive stats on www.barriesview.com, so if I can't infer some kind of conclusion by the end of this piece I should probably just give up this blog lark. Stats then. Firstly, Paul Riley provided these graphics, showing our goalkeeper's average save percentage, depending on where the shots faced originated from. There's also a graphic showing the Premier League average, to give it some context. These stats are based on performances in the Premier League over the last four years - though Fabianski's lack of real action over the last few seasons means his percentages aren't as telling as Vorm's or Tremmel's. These stats show that, statistically, there's a massive contrast between our two pre-existing goalkeepers, as Vorm's strongest point (compared to the average) is stopping shots from close range, where he saves 49% of shots faced. Tremmel on the other hand, seems incapable of stopping anything from that kind of distance - stopping just 17% of shots faced in Zone 1. Ouch. Interestingly, he's actually above the PL average in every other zone - would it be fair to say that his reactions are severely letting him down? Given he's no spring chicken it seems unlikely he'll be able to improve that aspect of his game too much, so bringing in another goalkeeper is already starting to look like a great shout. It's a shame, as it's clear that he's very strong when it comes to dealing with shots from every other zone. Fabianski (bearing in mind this is limited data given he's only played thirty-two games over seven seasons for Arsenal) has some great stats! 100% save rate from zones three, four and five, his saves from Zone 2 are almost identical to Vorm's, while his stops from close range (33%) are 11% below the Premier League average - and 16% behind his new rival for the no1 spot Michel Vorm. I'd say that in context, these stats back up what most would say about Vorm - that he's a great reaction keeper but his positioning let's him down in terms of shots from long range. I'd say that he's too keen to come off his line at times, and also that his starting position for long shots does always seem to see him standing quite far off his line. Paul Riley also agrees, making very similar observations to mine: "Vorm is super agile which makes him good from close in. He is however a bit too aggressive in his positioning, and suffers from wider positions and from range. As he's often so far out he gets beaten by stuff that 'liners' [goalkeeper's who stay on their goalline] like David De Gea don't." Next, some different stats, sourced from Barriesview.com. A wealth of data here! Instead of just selecting bits and bobs, let's just include the entire stats page, and give full credit to whoever did this as it can't have been easy to put together! Firstly - can I congratulate Garry Monk and co on the signing of Fabianski - who saved EVERY single shot he faced this season! Only Anders Lindergaard and Luke Daniels can also say that, and Daniels only played twelve minutes! :Lindergaard and Fabianski both only played once in the league this season, mind... Fabianski made five saves in fairness - and given that's more than any other 'keeper made on average per ninety minutes it's safe to assume that's more than most goalkeepers make on average per game. Ok, his only Premier League appearance of the season was on the final day of the season to an already relegated Norwich (did Wenger know he was off to Swansea?), but he did perform very well in European competition this year when he was called upon. He managed to restrict Bayern to only one goal at home (although Arsenal were obviously already out by this point), and did save a penalty at the death to keep it at 1-1. Not many teams get away from the Allianz Arena conceding only one goal - even fewer who play like Arsenal do. Something which did surprise me is that according to these stats our goalkeepers cost us four penalties this year. I can't say I remember that, but that could again tally with Vorm's positioning - he's too keen to come off his line and it has cost us on a couple of occasions. Comparing the existing Swansea 'keepers on some of these states is interesting too. Vorm made 1.9 saves per goal conceded, while Tremmel only managed 1.5. Fabianski doesn't even have a stat for that, he's so sure-handed! Tremmel also conceded 1.83 goals per 90 minutes as opposed to Vorm's 1.23, so again the Dutchman is obviously on top. Personally though, and I know that despite all the information above I don't have statistics to prove this, I think Fabianski will go on to be a better keeper than either of the players who kept goal for the Swans during the 13/14 season. I think he's a top keeper, and that the erraticality which blighted him early in his Arsenal career has now disappeared sufficiently to allow him to make a name for himself as a solid Premier League no1. If he can stay fit, I think we've got an absolute cracker on our hands. That's not to say this spells the end for Michel Vorm, not at all. I still rate him as an excellent shot stopper, and if he can improve the areas of his game which, statistics show, need working on, then he has all the attributes he needs to push Fabianski all the way in the battle for the Swansea no1 shirt this coming season. As for Tremmel though, the writing does seem on the wall. He's been a good servant, and I'm sure everyone wishes him well, but it'd be a big ask to see him playing any football next season.
