Will Pochettino stay or go?

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Joe! said:
The £27m of debt, as I understand it, is just installments for signings that we didn't pay up front for. If you spend £30m on transfer fees, you're likely spending at least double that over the year when you include a year's salary for each new signing, plus agent fees, signing fees, appearance fees, and whatever other fees get included in contracts. The TV deal might be able to cover £30m on transfer fees alone, but not the rest of it.

Also I think you might underestimate just how much goes into infrastructure.
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Total investment to date is £52m according to financial highlights 2012/3 on the OS.
http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/31032014-financial-results-201213-1455995.aspx
 
Joe! said:
The £27m of debt, as I understand it, is just installments for signings that we didn't pay up front for. If you spend £30m on transfer fees, you're likely spending at least double that over the year when you include a year's salary for each new signing, plus agent fees, signing fees, appearance fees, and whatever other fees get included in contracts. The TV deal might be able to cover £30m on transfer fees alone, but not the rest of it.

Also I think you might underestimate just how much goes into infrastructure.
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By "infrastructure" I mean the stadium improvements and training ground refurb. That doesn't account for anywhere the £200m you're claiming they injected. Quite where you're getting that number from I have no idea.
 
Joe! said:
Well for starters I don't think that figure includes the training ground project "now expected to exceed £30m", because that isn't done yet. It's also a season old.
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I presume it does include the majority of that, as the building started well in advance of these figures being released. Even assuming it doesn't include any of it, that takes the total to circa £82m, still £120m short of your figure.
 
pass the football said:
I presume it does include the majority of that, as the building started well in advance of these figures being released. Even assuming it doesn't include any of it, that takes the total to circa £82m, still £120m short of your figure.
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And has it been communicated anywhere that the total £30m will come from a capital injection and not from trading cash flow?
 
pass the football said:
By "infrastructure" I mean the stadium improvements and training ground refurb. That doesn't account for anywhere the £200m you're claiming they injected. Quite where you're getting that number from I have no idea.
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Yeah, and the numbers you're talking about are just the initial costs of the building work (which haven't actually been paid yet, I believe). Infrastructure comes with various regular and periodic expenses. Maybe the entire figure isn't quite £200m, but if you take the figure from the link PO10Saint posted, add "at least £30m" for the training ground costs, and you're already pushing £100m before taking into account that these are figures from a year ago.
 
PO10Saint said:
And has it been communicated anywhere that the total £30m will come from a capital injection and not from trading cash flow?
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You can safely assume it, considering this work was planned while the club was still earning peanuts.
 
Joe! said:
You can safely assume it, considering this work was planned while the club was still earning peanuts.
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I wouldn't assume it, but let's say you are right. Total investment of what £90m - how much do you think the club is worth?

Pretty tidy return on investment no?
 
i've just heard from a very reliable source that Saints board have just interviewed Harry Redknapp about a possible move to the club.
Apparently 'Joan' the St.Marys toilet cleaner has had a better offer from Tescos.
 
Black said:
And how is he supposed to improve his tactics exactly, when you only give him six months in the job, and a largely Championship-level playing squad?
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6 months? He took charge in League 1 and it was even obvious in the Championship that our defensive play was not up to scratch. He had 5 or 6 transfer windows to improve in those positions which he did not. He did not ever try to improve our defensive play other than signing people. We went into most games with the 'we are gonna score more than you' plan. He got found out in the Premier League and I wasn't surprised by at all. MP had the same squad as Adkins last year and improved our defensive in a short amount of time.
 
The quicker he goes and we get the new manager in the better. I've had enough of him now. He's had the chance to sign a new deal for weeks but has been playing us and waiting for spurs to finally approach him.
 
Joe! said:
Yeah, and the numbers you're talking about are just the initial costs of the building work (which haven't actually been paid yet, I believe). Infrastructure comes with various regular and periodic expenses. Maybe the entire figure isn't quite £200m, but if you take the figure from the link PO10Saint posted, add "at least £30m" for the training ground costs, and you're already pushing £100m before taking into account that these are figures from a year ago.
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"Pushing £100m" being the circa £82m I already mentioned. So you're just assuming they must have spent almost £120m in the last year?
 
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