Did any of you ****s vote UKIP ?
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Left wing extremism goes as far as Nazi's, Bolsheviks and it happens with right wing groups too such as Zbor or Military Junta.
Even the EDL are called a right wing group when they have no business in politics what so ever. The right/left spectrum is too often misunderstood.
So you would claim that fascism is a left wing ideology then , is that what you're saying ?
It infected both sides ? It is ultimately a right wing ideology that nicks a bit of this and a bit of that . It may have a tiny piece of socialism buried deep within it's rancid bowels but that doesn't make it any less right wing .
When all the Brown People are sent away and you still face the same ****ty problems you do at the moment, which rich white guy will you listen to next?
Lieutenant:6536522 said:
Not as long as the Chinese are bumming around on our beaches gathering cockles #DreamJobsForBritz
Most of us (Englander's) want you off our back's, so just **** off you cretinous ****, and **** the Irish too...and Polish and,,, Ah well you get the point.
You do realise there is a huge difference between National Socialism and Socialism? In fact National Socialism is not Socialism at all.
[video=youtube;QOcB31Q0bvI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOcB31Q0bvI[/video]
Because Nazism is an abbreviation for "National Socialism", and Nazi leaders sometimes described their ideology as a form of socialism, some people believe that Nazism was a form of socialism, or that there are similarities between Nazism and socialism. It has also been argued that the Nazi use of economic intervention, including central planning and some limited public ownership, is indicative of socialism.
Nazi leaders were opposed to the Marxist idea of class conflict and opposed the idea that capitalism should be abolished and that workers should control the means of production. For those who consider class conflict and the abolition of capitalism as essential components of socialist progress, these factors alone are sufficient to categorize "National Socialism" as non-socialist.
Nazi leaders made statements describing their views as socialist, while at the same time opposing the idea of class conflict espoused by the Social Democrats (SPD) and Communists (KPD). Established socialist movements did not view the Nazis as socialists and argued that the Nazis were thinly disguised reactionaries. Historians such as Ian Kershaw also note the links between the Nazis and the German political and economic establishment and the significance of the Night of the Long Knives in which Hitler purged what were at the time seen as "leftist" elements in the Nazi Party and how this was done at the urging of the military and conservatives.
Many of the traditional center and right political parties of the Weimar Republic accused the Nazis of being socialists citing planks in the Nazis' party program which called for nationalization of trusts and other socialist measures. However, the German National People's Party (DNVP), the most important party on the mainstream right, usually treated the Nazis as a respected potential member of coalition cabinet.
The Nazis came to power through an alliance with traditional conservative forces. Franz von Papen, a very conservative former German Chancellor and former member of the Catholic Centre Party supported Hitler for the position of Chancellor and later became an important Nazi official. The Enabling Act which gave the Nazis dictatorial powers passed only because of the support of conservative and centrist deputies in the Reichstag, over the opposition of Social Democrats and Communists.
http://www.nazism.net/about/relation_to_other_concepts/
Nazi leaders were opposed to the Marxist idea of class conflict and opposed the idea that capitalism should be abolished and that workers should control the means of production. For those who consider class conflict and the abolition of capitalism as essential components of socialist progress, these factors alone are sufficient to categorize "National Socialism" as non-socialist.
Nazi leaders made statements describing their views as socialist, while at the same time opposing the idea of class conflict espoused by the Social Democrats (SPD) and Communists (KPD). Established socialist movements did not view the Nazis as socialists and argued that the Nazis were thinly disguised reactionaries. Historians such as Ian Kershaw also note the links between the Nazis and the German political and economic establishment and the significance of the Night of the Long Knives in which Hitler purged what were at the time seen as "leftist" elements in the Nazi Party and how this was done at the urging of the military and conservatives.
Many of the traditional center and right political parties of the Weimar Republic accused the Nazis of being socialists citing planks in the Nazis' party program which called for nationalization of trusts and other socialist measures. However, the German National People's Party (DNVP), the most important party on the mainstream right, usually treated the Nazis as a respected potential member of coalition cabinet.
The Nazis came to power through an alliance with traditional conservative forces. Franz von Papen, a very conservative former German Chancellor and former member of the Catholic Centre Party supported Hitler for the position of Chancellor and later became an important Nazi official. The Enabling Act which gave the Nazis dictatorial powers passed only because of the support of conservative and centrist deputies in the Reichstag, over the opposition of Social Democrats and Communists.
http://www.nazism.net/about/relation_to_other_concepts/
Marx isn't/wasn't the only socialist economist. I find that most left wingers I know relate mostly to John Maynard Keynes.
So which part of Socialist doctrine did the Nazis use? Apart from the name what have true Socialism and Nazism got in common?
In your own time.
Hitler pushed his own brand of socialism, he despised communist mantra believing it to be Jewish, he also opposed capitalism
So that's Socialism is it? Despising Communism and opposing Capitalism?
That's not the question I asked so i'll ask again, which part of Socialist doctrine did the Nazis use?
Not being knowledgeable is one thing but continuing to be ignorant is another. Research for yourself your a grown man.
I'm obviously a sight more knowledgeable than you. You think because someone like Hitler called himself a Socialist he should be believed. It was a con trick you loonball, not only did he fool people at the time into buying it, people like you are still buying it long after it's been established it was a fraud, a con trick.
National Socialism had about as much in common with Socialism as Socialism had in common with Facism.
“The government will not protect the economic interests of the German people by the circuitous method of an economic bureaucracy to be organised by the state, but by the utmost furtherance of private initiative and by the recognition of the rights of property,”