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Gerry Adams arrested

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by jonathan acworth 71, May 1, 2014.

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  1. Patience

    Patience Spastic Arab

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    Aye, but she was a mother, of 10. Which, in the murder grading system, is lower than torturing children or shooting unarmed protestors or chucking grenades at a funeral procession. But then again, the PM said sorry for some of those, which makes it ok. The IRA on the other hand...

    Here's a thought: Maybe Gerry Adams had nothing to do with it. Looks like there's not enough evidence to charge him which, as it goes, means he continues to walk the streets an innocent man, like hundreds, possibly thousands of others who may or may not have committed heinous crimes and murders during the troubles.

    In the meantime there'll be many more families, not just the McConvilles, who will want answers and arrests, and should the day arrive where there IS some real evidence then I am sure charges will be brought.
     
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    Patience, May 7, 2014
  2. EDGE.

    EDGE. Official POTY 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018 & 2023

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    BOOM!!

    And here we find the REAL reasons behind Mick's illogical hatred of Medro, Rangers and Protestants, his motive behind breaking up the UK and the reason he has a humph and is a closet homo.

    BOOM!!!!!!!! <laugh> <laugh>

    TAKE THAT TAE THE BANK YA CHOOB
     
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    EDGE., May 7, 2014
  3. rogueleader

    rogueleader suave gringo

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    Which suggests you see some justification , or have I misread you ?
     
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  4. Mick

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    We'll just keep going back and forth - with me giving other examples of the likes of the British Army doing barbaric things under the fog of war. I'll make the point that none of these things are justifiable, but they are what happens when stupid mammals get themselves in a rage about some supposed existential threat, or perceived injustice to themselves.
     
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  5. rogueleader

    rogueleader suave gringo

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    Fair enough.
     
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  6. DevAdvocate

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    The problem is Mick some people are still intent on justifying this murder now.
     
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  7. Mick

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    To step back a bit and consider the morals of executing collaborators in a war - I made the point that's there no justification for doing such things - but there probably is a deep rooted feeling inside me that if she was indeed a collaborator then there may have been a certain amount of justification (of course there's less justification if she wasn't - 'less', because that then goes down as an 'administrative mistake' in an otherwise morally justifiable policy? <whistle>).

    Just ask yourself would you have tried to justify the execution of people who actively helped the IRA kill members of your unit - or even worse, imagine it was a member of your unit who gave information to the IRA which lead to the killing of other members of your unit? I imagine you wouldn't feel very sorry for that person if they met a violent end - they'd be a traitor to their own kind, and they would have deserved it.

    Tribal solidarity is a powerful force in human affairs, and I think hatred of supposed collaborators is probably quite an innate thing in us all.
     
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    Mick, May 7, 2014
  8. DevAdvocate

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    But the problem is Mick there is absolutely no evidence of her being a collaborator, her crime was that she crossed someone connected to the IRA and as has happened many times before that was enough to see her murdered.

    The allegations of her being a tout/grass were made by the same people who told her kids she had run off with a soldier. That as we know was a big fat lie, so ask yourself, what possible information could she have had that would have been of any use to the Security Forces? They have even alleged that she had a "Transmitter" in her house which she used to contact the Security Forces, if that's the case then the IRA must have been absolute ******s and their security of information an utter joke if a widow living in a squalid house with 10 kids was a threat to them.

    I do not for one minute believe she was an informer, no one with any sense would, but as we know the IRA seldom if ever admit to mistakes or accept blame on their part.
     
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    DevAdvocate, May 7, 2014
  9. EDGE.

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    Russ stylin' the baldy, bigoted closet home as per.
     
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  10. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    I always rage about paddies, ya murderous bastards <grr>
     
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  11. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Haven't read any of this thread but who the **** cares? She was **** ugly.
     
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    The Raging Oxter, May 7, 2014
  12. User Deleted

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    I agree.

    Boo ****in hoo.
     
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  13. Mind The Duck

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    Maybe it was a ricochet...
     
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    Mind The Duck, May 7, 2014
  14. DevAdvocate

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    An Interesting take on the subject. <confused>

    Do you propose that we should only concern ourselves with the murder of good looking people?
     
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    Yes.
     
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  16. DevAdvocate

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    That might be funny but unfortunately I have no idea what (if any) point your are attempting to make.
     
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    DevAdvocate, May 7, 2014
  17. The Raging Oxter

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    Aye. Admit it, when you read about the death of a young woman and she's attractive it's always more disappointing than when it's a munter.
     
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  18. Mick

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    I am not sure what information she would have had that was useful to the security forces. The Police and British Army did try to recruit informants all the time though, and they were very useful in the early 1970's when PIRA had no idea what they were doing (Adams was only like 21 and McGuinness about 19 at the time - it was a bunch of angry kids playing war with no organisational skill).

    Anyway, I don't buy that she was shot simply for being a former Protestant (she converted to Catholicism, and half my mother's side were actual Protestants married to Catholics - there were much easier targets than widowed mothers of 10 if you wanted to be sectarian) - and I think it more likely they actually did suspect of her informing, whether that was true, or whether they tried to embellish the evidence they had or not.
     
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    Mick, May 7, 2014
  19. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Nae **** will care if you get murdered then. <laugh>
     
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  20. Mind The Duck

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    Did Jimmy Savile ever shag an ugly corpse?
     
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