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Couldn't even do the Ayatollah for fear of upsetting the Palarse fans even when Caulker told him to do it.
A waste of space. Send him back to the Mancs now.
A waste of space. Send him back to the Mancs now.
Agree about Ledley and Zaha in this thread.
Ledley is no Aaron Ramsey - he robbed the club of millions by running down his contract. A player who had any feeling for the club and its fans would not have done that. He's just a Liverpool fan who used to live in Fairwater.
Zaha - no point in playing him. Use him as sub maybe - if we have to. He's not that interested, and he's not that good. Pretty, but ineffective (a bit like Daehli).
Daehli was our best player yesterday, by some distance as well. Given his age and his size, he did well, I thought. He was less effective in the second half, but I don't know what else he was meant to do....
We were just rubbish. Zaha from where i was sitting in the family stand was defo playing for them, he had lots of opportunity to lift the ball into the box, but chose to tamely pass it to their defence instead. The disappointment of this whole season is getting to me, and to see a bunch of highly paid average players perform against a decidedly average outfit was upsetting. No guts at all, none of them.
I think this is part of the problem, he did 'look' like one of our best players. He looks like a good footballer, and is good on the ball. I like the way he turns into space to get away from people. But he doesn't really influence the game at all - he just looks nice.
Daehli is a good footballer, great touch and vision but no pace. He can turn people but has no acceleration to take him away from them. Why do you think Man U let him go?
He is best played in the hole behind the striker(s) rather than the deep lying job he was asked to do first half yesterday. He will be more successful in the Championship - a bit like Andy Reid but not so fat.
Only more evidence to OGS's tactical naivety.
At the risk of upsetting Steveolinho, Zaha proved again what a lame excuse for a player he is. 1 useful cross first half and nothing else. Doesn't want to be with us and I for one don't want him. Palarse can have him back but do they really need him?
He is best played in the hole behind the striker(s) rather than the deep lying job he was asked to do first half yesterday. He will be more successful in the Championship - a bit like Andy Reid but not so fat.
Only more evidence to OGS's tactical naivety.
At the risk of upsetting Steveolinho, Zaha proved again what a lame excuse for a player he is. 1 useful cross first half and nothing else. Doesn't want to be with us and I for one don't want him. Palarse can have him back but do they really need him?
Don't want to seem to be jumping on the bandwagon, but I didn't want Zaha here from the start.
I said at the time we needed someone brought in who wanted to be here for the club, not just put himself in the shop window for his own benefit. He was a wrong 'un from the start and a huge mistake by those concerned in bringing here - and that must include Ole as manager with the allegedly final say on player matters.
As far as Daehli goes, he's classy. He tried so hard yesterday to make it work, but he was surrounded by a set of demoralised and clueless players sent out by a man with equally clueless tactical awarenes of what was needed to win that game.
Nobody was moving for him to link with to the extent that he was always looking for an out that wasn't there. He needs better players around him at this level, not the Championship selection that were out there yesterday.
I said at the time we needed someone brought in who wanted to be here for the club, not just put himself in the shop window for his own benefit. He was a wrong 'un from the start and a huge mistake by those concerned in bringing here - and that must include Ole as manager with the allegedly final say on player matters.
As far as Daehli goes, he's classy. He tried so hard yesterday to make it work, but he was surrounded by a set of demoralised and clueless players sent out by a man with equally clueless tactical awarenes of what was needed to win that game.
Nobody was moving for him to link with to the extent that he was always looking for an out that wasn't there. He needs better players around him at this level, not the Championship selection that were out there yesterday.
The problem I see for next season is a demoralised squad and a League 1 manager.
We will need a complete overhaul in the summer.
We will need a complete overhaul in the summer.
I think you will just about stay up.
But while I think you'll get rid of your League 1 manager, I'm worried that we will stick with ours.
But while I think you'll get rid of your League 1 manager, I'm worried that we will stick with ours.
I said exactly the same Sparks and gave good reasons why, not least being he did nothing against us in the Championship - with our Championship level defenders.
Frazier Campbell is Premier League quality (and works!), so are Medel, Caulker, Marshall, Noone, Mutch (but not against Palarse) and possibly Bellamy and Theo. Declan John may be Premier quality one day - but is not yet (like Adam Matthews when he was with us, he needs to prove he can defend). The problem is we have had two managers this season, and neither of them (in their different ways) have been good enough for the Premier League.
Zaha does not, on what we have seen, look like a Premier League player. He definitely wouldn't get into a top 10 side in this league. I'm with others on this: I never wanted him in the first place, and did post when we signed him that I believed he was just a diving show pony - whose only plus was that he might get us a penalty some time this season (he hasn't even managed that).
Daehli is a very pretty player, but too lightweight and too slow to be effective, and the same will be true in the Championship - flatters to deceive.
dai, we timewaste when we are ahead, we were timewasting in the first half against chelsea at stamford bridge. ledley was respectful with his celebration and gave us good service in his many years here, just because a player moves on after his club reject numerous offers for him does not make him a '****'.
back to zaha, he hasnt got the heart or bottle for a relegation fight. he'll look better in a better team but at the moment all he cares about is doing well for himself then going back to united.
some players are giving it all and desperate to stay up (marshall, campbell, bellamy), but too many know they wont be here next year and are not matching that desire, the likes of medel, jones etc.....
back to zaha, he hasnt got the heart or bottle for a relegation fight. he'll look better in a better team but at the moment all he cares about is doing well for himself then going back to united.
some players are giving it all and desperate to stay up (marshall, campbell, bellamy), but too many know they wont be here next year and are not matching that desire, the likes of medel, jones etc.....
He was right in front of me, the ref told him to leave the pitch more than once should have had a red card. He was laughing at the Cardiff fans he is without doubt a ****head, never liked him when he played for us. You got your opinion and I got mine.
Dai, in fairness he was only about 10 yards from me and I didn't see him laughing. I was screaming at him to get off the pitch (or words to that effect) but he only did what any player would do in his situation.
I thought Joe actually showed us some respect with no goal celebration. I did suggest he change his name to Joe Judas when he was "resting" after his injury.
The main fault here lies with the ref who was pretty well against us all day - no change there. Dowd strolled over and made no real effort to get Ledley off until his comedy duo trainers came over. That took well over a minute.
Dowd was way too lax with their players all day over time wasting. It started in the second minute with a throw in and continued shortly after when for some reason it took over 30 seconds to take a corner when Puncheon was actually stood over the ball. He tolerated this all afternoon. I was amazed there were only 2 minutes added time for the first half when their tactics probably accounted for about 4 or 5 minutes. However, I thought "Oh well perhaps he will add it at the end of the game".
But at the end of the second half we had 4 minutes after 6 subs, the Ledley situation and another injury in their goal mouth. I think there was another injury in added time and he still only played 4 minutes - not that I wanted it to go on any longer at that time though.
Dowd was totally ineffective at managing the time wasting. An early booking would have sorted that out.
Also, I have the usual complaint about the lack of a penalty when Daehli was clearly bowled over in their box. He didn't consider it for a second and then, guess what, he gave us a free kick in a harmless position for an almost identical offence.
Mr. Dowd is no friend of Cardiff City and I don't want to see him officiate AGAINST us ever again.
I thought Joe actually showed us some respect with no goal celebration. I did suggest he change his name to Joe Judas when he was "resting" after his injury.
The main fault here lies with the ref who was pretty well against us all day - no change there. Dowd strolled over and made no real effort to get Ledley off until his comedy duo trainers came over. That took well over a minute.
Dowd was way too lax with their players all day over time wasting. It started in the second minute with a throw in and continued shortly after when for some reason it took over 30 seconds to take a corner when Puncheon was actually stood over the ball. He tolerated this all afternoon. I was amazed there were only 2 minutes added time for the first half when their tactics probably accounted for about 4 or 5 minutes. However, I thought "Oh well perhaps he will add it at the end of the game".
But at the end of the second half we had 4 minutes after 6 subs, the Ledley situation and another injury in their goal mouth. I think there was another injury in added time and he still only played 4 minutes - not that I wanted it to go on any longer at that time though.
Dowd was totally ineffective at managing the time wasting. An early booking would have sorted that out.
Also, I have the usual complaint about the lack of a penalty when Daehli was clearly bowled over in their box. He didn't consider it for a second and then, guess what, he gave us a free kick in a harmless position for an almost identical offence.
Mr. Dowd is no friend of Cardiff City and I don't want to see him officiate AGAINST us ever again.
Maybe Joe was smirking at the fat middle aged men twice his age abusing him.
Nothing wrong with Joes conduct yesterday.
Palace are well organised outfit who knew their job and defended well and did what they needed to.
Pulis has done what is needed to get a very limited side to safety.
Totally transformed them.
Ole has managed to make us worse - much worse.