Graham Poll's verdict: Foy cost us the game

[CFC: Champs £launderx17]

"Chelsea have every right to feel aggrieved with Chris Foy’s refereeing. Ramires was in on goal when he was scythed down by Joe Bennett. The Villa player should have been dismissed.
Willian was harshly sent off for a second yellow card after a clash with Fabian Delph. It was a minor foul and a free-kick was the most that should have been awarded.
Ramires was correctly shown the straight red card by Foy for his shocking challenge on Karim El Ahmadi. The FA have the power to impose longer bans for serious ‘assaults’ and this falls into that category.
Chelsea now appear to want to ask that Foy is not appointed to any more of their games, which is understandable.
I would be surprised if Chelsea see him again this season.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...d-cards-Aston-Villa-defeat.html#ixzz2wCXCOjQQ

 

[bluemoon2]

"Chelsea have every right to feel aggrieved with Chris Foy’s refereeing. Ramires was in on goal when he was scythed down by Joe Bennett. The Villa player should have been dismissed.
Willian was harshly sent off for a second yellow card after a clash with Fabian Delph. It was a minor foul and a free-kick was the most that should have been awarded.
Ramires was correctly shown the straight red card by Foy for his shocking challenge on Karim El Ahmadi. The FA have the power to impose longer bans for serious ‘assaults’ and this falls into that category.
Chelsea now appear to want to ask that Foy is not appointed to any more of their games, which is understandable.
I would be surprised if Chelsea see him again this season.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...d-cards-Aston-Villa-defeat.html#ixzz2wCXCOjQQ

That's an interesting piece , considering who made the comment! Apart from anything else it always strikes me as odd that there is no official appeal system to deal with this. In a court of law, if judgement s were given that were clearly wrong then there would be a court of appeal to put them right!

 

[chelsea - over 100 years of history]

Personally I don't think the referring was THAT bad, compared to say when he did our QPR game. But we did seem to lose out on every 50/50 decision. Most of the time it was the linesman as well. Foy I think actually gave the Matic goal and it was the lino that ruled it out. Lino also got some off sides wrong.

The Bennett one was difficult to give as a red as Ramires was still a fair way from goal and another Villa player next to him. The worst was the Delph one. Completely changed the game and was really soft. From the refs angle certainly looked a foul but when you saw the angle with players face onto the camera, you can see Delph look at Willian and basically fall over. He knew he wasn't getting away and took the dive. We'd have never have lost otherwise and probably would have nicked it.

 

[astro]

I honestly think Willian's second yellow was nailed on

It was a blatantly cynical attempt to break up play with zero attempt at all to be anywhere near the ball

I hate the tactic of bigger teams against smaller teams that the smaller team will create so few chances that you can just foul them and probably get away with it

If you're going to "take one for the team" you can't then whinge that you actually get a yellow for it

You should be upset with Willian's stupidity of doing it when already booked

 

[CFC: Champs £launderx17]

I honestly think Willian's second yellow was nailed on

It was a blatantly cynical attempt to break up play with zero attempt at all to be anywhere near the ball

I hate the tactic of bigger teams against smaller teams that the smaller team will create so few chances that you can just foul them and probably get away with it

If you're going to "take one for the team" you can't then whinge that you actually get a yellow for it

You should be upset with Willian's stupidity of doing it when already booked

Think this is harsh as Willian was tracking back and Delph really made the most of it

 

[chelsea - over 100 years of history]

I honestly think Willian's second yellow was nailed on

It was a blatantly cynical attempt to break up play with zero attempt at all to be anywhere near the ball

I hate the tactic of bigger teams against smaller teams that the smaller team will create so few chances that you can just foul them and probably get away with it

If you're going to "take one for the team" you can't then whinge that you actually get a yellow for it

You should be upset with Willian's stupidity of doing it when already booked

Disagree entirely. In real time it did look like a foul and a booking admittedly but replay clearly shows both players touched each other and Delph dived.

 

[ollyday]

Foy certainly did us no favours on saturday but im sure other teams fans will point to descions that have gone our way from other refs
But his record of descions against us is staggering and some oe at the FA should look at it
but at the end of the day we were very poor and didnt deserve to win

 

[tjblonks]

I honestly think Willian's second yellow was nailed on

It was a blatantly cynical attempt to break up play with zero attempt at all to be anywhere near the ball

I hate the tactic of bigger teams against smaller teams that the smaller team will create so few chances that you can just foul them and probably get away with it

If you're going to "take one for the team" you can't then whinge that you actually get a yellow for it

You should be upset with Willian's stupidity of doing it when already booked

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Willian does absolutely nothing to cause Delph to go down.

 

[astro]

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Willian does absolutely nothing to cause Delph to go down.

By the time this clip starts Willian has already pushed Delph and is now holding him back

 

[astro]

Disagree entirely. In real time it did look like a foul and a booking admittedly but replay clearly shows both players touched each other and Delph dived.

Well you can at least agree it was a reasonable decision for the ref to make and not some massive injustice. It doesn't compare with e.g. the last minute Ramires penalty dive in bad decisions

The second red has zero doubt

The possible red for the Villa foul was not a red because there was a covering player. That last man rule is messed up and needs clarifying but that isn't Foy's fault, he just went with the standard interpretation

Mourinho being the only person punished for the pitch invasion was maybe harsh but what does that really matter?

 

[CPofL KTBFFH]

By the time this clip starts Willian has already pushed Delph and is now holding him back

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[CPofL KTBFFH]

Well you can at least agree it was a reasonable decision for the ref to make and not some massive injustice. It doesn't compare with e.g. the last minute Ramires penalty dive in bad decisions

The second red has zero doubt

The possible red for the Villa foul was not a red because there was a covering player. That last man rule is messed up and needs clarifying but that isn't Foy's fault, he just went with the standard interpretation

Mourinho being the only person punished for the pitch invasion was maybe harsh but what does that really matter?

And you think Poll who has admitted a dislike for us is saying it was red because.......?

 

[tjblonks]

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Sometimes you just have to wonder...

 

[astro]

And you think Poll who has admitted a dislike for us is saying it was red because.......?

Because he's going by the letter of the law and the denial of a goalscoring opportunity

But a player has never been sent off for this when there is a covering player

How many red cards for shirt pulling have there been?

This is one of the areas where the refs have their own rule

If Poll had been referee he wouldn't have given a red for it but refs like to talk big when they're not on the pitch any more

 

[Tobes]

I honestly think Willian's second yellow was nailed on

It was a blatantly cynical attempt to break up play with zero attempt at all to be anywhere near the ball

I hate the tactic of bigger teams against smaller teams that the smaller team will create so few chances that you can just foul them and probably get away with it

If you're going to "take one for the team" you can't then whinge that you actually get a yellow for it

You should be upset with Willian's stupidity of doing it when already booked

Well you would do, given that you're a clueless kopite bell end.

At least you're 100% consistent, as in 100% wrong

 

[chelsea - over 100 years of history]

Well you can at least agree it was a reasonable decision for the ref to make and not some massive injustice. It doesn't compare with e.g. the last minute Ramires penalty dive in bad decisions

The second red has zero doubt

The possible red for the Villa foul was not a red because there was a covering player. That last man rule is messed up and needs clarifying but that isn't Foy's fault, he just went with the standard interpretation

Mourinho being the only person punished for the pitch invasion was maybe harsh but what does that really matter?

I blame Delph not the ref for the Willian sending off. Whether he was trying to get the player sent off we'll never know but he felt a touch and went down, never a foul let alone a booking. People need to remember it's a contact sport. No arguments with the Ramires one but then how often does a player whose team have suffered a perceived in justice do something stupid?

 

[CFC: Champs £launderx17]

Because he's going by the letter of the law and the denial of a goalscoring opportunity

But a player has never been sent off for this when there is a covering player

How many red cards for shirt pulling have there been?

This is one of the areas where the refs have their own rule

If Poll had been referee he wouldn't have given a red for it but refs like to talk big when they're not on the pitch any more

Ramires was going past the covering player too when he was fouled. It was a red, even the MOTD pundits agreed the 'covering' player would not have got back: straight red

 

[CPofL KTBFFH]

I blame Delph not the ref for the Willian sending off. Whether he was trying to get the player sent off we'll never know but he felt a touch and went down, never a foul let alone a booking. People need to remember it's a contact sport. No arguments with the Ramires one but then how often does a player whose team have suffered a perceived in justice do something stupid?

He gave an interview and said he went down easily because he only weighs 3 stone

 

[CPofL KTBFFH]

Ramires was going past the covering player too when he was fouled. It was a red, even the MOTD pundits agreed the 'covering' player would not have got back: straight red

Wasting your time. MOTD are wrong, Poll is wrong but Astrotwat is right.

 

[JCC87]

If anything Vlaar tried to swipe Ramires with his arm too, knew Ramires was in. That along with the offside and disallowed goal, 3 game changing decisions completely wrong.