Vincent or Roland?

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Captain Blackaddick said:
That's an admission (to be fair, we'd already worked it out) that we're getting Standard Liege cast-offs. I don't like Charlton being viewed in that way. It also implies that we are below Standard in RD's rankings, even though he compares us to 2 of his 5 children, all of whom are to be treated equally.?
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Part of me thinks that the Standard Liege person in that video has an inflated view of Liege and hasnt thought about the ramifications of Charlton getting into the Premier League and the income we'd bring to Roland...

I think I'd only get concerned if First-Team players started getting shifted about as so far the likes of Thuram / Reza / Koc / Nego / Ajdarevic they've all come into our squad when they've not been playing for Liege so should it get to stage where Pritchard / Evina / Bradley Jordan are struggling to game time then it would be a good idea, no so should Poyet / Cousins head off to the mainland for these clubs.

I dont know the massive ins and outs of it but its almost like the link Man Utd have with Royal Antwerp where the Utd Youth players head out to Antwerp for a season to gain a bit of experience (which includes the likes of Danny Simpson, Jonny Evans and John O'Shea)... Of course our links with our clubs may be different as it'll be a two-way thing
 
SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious said:
Makes you wonder when here in the UK they've made moves to sign Poyet to a long term deal, but it's yet to be signed off. This really has me concerned, and makes me question KM's role. If I were her, I'd also have to question it.
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Was it really only 20 years ago that we had an English gentleman (in every sense of the word) and lifelong, self effacing Charlton supporter as our owner? Name of Roger Alwen. In those days you could literally ring the club up and if Roger was free he would talk to you. What an absolute shambles we are now in with this mixed mongrel ownership and a shady Flem at the helm who has more ulterior motives than Pavarotti in a cake shop.
 
Addick4Life said:
Part of me thinks that the Standard Liege person in that video has an inflated view of Liege and hasnt thought about the ramifications of Charlton getting into the Premier League and the income we'd bring to Roland...

I think I'd only get concerned if First-Team players started getting shifted about as so far the likes of Thuram / Reza / Koc / Nego / Ajdarevic they've all come into our squad when they've not been playing for Liege so should it get to stage where Pritchard / Evina / Bradley Jordan are struggling to game time then it would be a good idea, no so should Poyet / Cousins head off to the mainland for these clubs.

I dont know the massive ins and outs of it but its almost like the link Man Utd have with Royal Antwerp where the Utd Youth players head out to Antwerp for a season to gain a bit of experience (which includes the likes of Danny Simpson, Jonny Evans and John O'Shea)... Of course our links with our clubs may be different as it'll be a two-way thing
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The point is that we don't want our 109 year old London club being used and abused as part of this experiment!
 
VolauVent Addick said:
The point is that we don't want our 109 year old London club being used and abused as part of this experiment!
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Not even if the experiment isnt with First-Teamers (I agree I dont want us being used and abused in this way) but with Youngsters going on season long loans to Spain and learning a new style of Football which could benefit Charlton when they come back? (ala Royal Antwerp / Man Utd style)
 
All for our youngsters going abroad for experience, but our better players? Initial fears are being confirmed, I just saw the video of RD talking about this and it makes you sick. This interview must have been filmed when he was over before QPR, but wasn't broadcasted till he was back in the safety of Belgium.
 
"When a player not good enough for the first team needs some experience he can go to Charlton.
When we have a big talent of Charlton he can come also to Standard Liege"

So who put that idea into the Standard Liege's sports manager's head..?

We've already got a taste of what's to be expected from Roley, and let's face it, it's no road to glory...
 
Addick4Life said:
Not even if the experiment isnt with First-Teamers (I agree I dont want us being used and abused in this way) but with Youngsters going on season long loans to Spain and learning a new style of Football which could benefit Charlton when they come back? (ala Royal Antwerp / Man Utd style)
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The acid test will come if ever RD wants to "sell" Solly, Cousins or Poyet to Standard Liege. However, he is more than welcome to export Pritchard, Evina or Green <laugh>
 
I would imagine that when one of his Liege rejects needs some game time in the stiffs (Charlton), he would want a manager who will give them this game time, and it appears that Lord Powell will not play them unless they are good enough. Maybe it fits in with his plans if we get relegated, he can sack the manager, because that's what happens, and get his own man in, who will give them game time in the way that Jason Euell gave some game time to Sordell today.
 
Addick4Life said:
... its almost like the link Man Utd have with Royal Antwerp where the Utd Youth players head out to Antwerp for a season to gain a bit of experience.
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Two big differences are that Liege are as big a club, if not bigger, than Charlton, and that the owner's first loyalty is to Liege. That means our fringe players will be of no use to them. As for them gaining experience in his other Mickey Mouse clubs, I think they would progress faster back at Sparrows Lane.
 
eddiefirmani said:
Two big differences are that Liege are as big a club, if not bigger, than Charlton, and that the owner's first loyalty is to Liege. That means our fringe players will be of no use to them. As for them gaining experience in his other Mickey Mouse clubs, I think they would progress faster back at Sparrows Lane.
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I was wondering whether Archie Edwardes, who has huge talent but a slight build at the moment would benefit from a spell in Spain.
 
ForestHillBilly said:
I was wondering whether Archie Edwardes, who has huge talent but a slight build at the moment would benefit from a spell in Spain.
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Ken Shabby may know more about it, but I doubt if Spanish football in the lower divisions is all tiki-taka. I remember Bover-Izquierdo complaining about being kicked all over the park in his third- (or fourth- ?) tier division.

Where I am presently located I see a lot of Latin American football on TV and I am astonished at how agricultural a lot of it is, quite unlike the popular image in Europe. Reminds me of school football in England in that there is often a huge skills gap between the best and worst players in the same team. Explains why so many Latin Americans flop in Europe. It must be very hard to judge their true quality against such variable opposition. Not only is the tackling often brutal, through desperation or cynicism, but the refereeing is woeful and the mildest collision can break out into a 22-player brawl with few reprisals.

No doubt Spanish football is not as bad but I think we might get the wrong impression from the handful of top clubs and their academies.
 
Are alcoron in the second division? You don't see any if it over here, but you have some big teams and some very good players in that league. Deportivo are currently in there, and it was only little over ten years ago they were winning la liga!! Barcelona B are also there.
 
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