OMT: Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City

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Can a mod just close this thread, the more I read Spurs and Man City in the same sentence I just want to hide in a corner and cry. :(
 
redwhiteandermblue said:
As for lack of goals--I don't get you there. It's the same team that's been playing, and leading the PL (I think) since Sherwood took over (before today, of course.). Besides, who else is going to score? Lamela, who's scored none, Soldado? Chadli? If anything, I would have played Chadli to provide more defensive help.
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Yes it was the same team...who's been scoring though? he cannot score every game, so you have to have 'good' potential goal threat from elsewhere in the team, and imo we don't. Did Ade have a shot?, can't recall one, can't recall anything worthwhile in open play tbh, set pieces was our best bet and are they our strong point...no. You can excuse Ade with poor or no service, but doesn't that highlight my point even more?
 
notsosmartspur said:
Not read anything so far, can imagine loadsa blame on Marriner and the lino, fair moans tbf, but we'll never know if Daws disallowed goal would have affected the outcome. Probably not, even though we looked like we had weathered the initial storm, lets be honest, should've been 3/4 down before that happened, Hart till that point a mere spectator.

What surprised me was how slow, lethargic, and generally off the pace for having the supposed benefit of 10 days off, while City played twice in that period, you really would think watching it was the other way round. We never pressed them at all, Bentaleb and Dembele were shown on MOTD to have been jogging around MF watching the game really, Eriksen aswell for me.

The teamsheet left me wondering where goals would come from, forget the back4, the front 6 posed little threat, but when you field too many non-scoring or infrequent scoring players its no surprise.

Dembele, perennial low scorer, as is Lennon, Bentaleb no, Sig infrequent, Eriksen, should we be relying on a newly signed 21yr old just yet for regular goals, which left Ade, which is too much burden for one player. Our opponents certainly exposed that. Our bench players were unlikely to have fared any better, Chadli, Holtby infrequent aswell.

Getting fed up of the high scoring drubbings, one result a season you can say bad day at the office, thats 3 or 4 totally unacceptable scorelines this season and we're only 2/3rds through it. Every time we go down to 10 we get hammered, heads drop etc, in other games where other teams get one sent off they rally for a draw, hell I've seen teams win with 10, not saying it should have happened against last night with City in that form, but its a familiar pattern for us it seems, the game disappears down the plughole.
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Would you rather that at 2-0 down and 10 men we threw on defenders and not let any of our players leave their half? That's the best chance we had of not having a few more goals put past us and I'm glad we didn't do it. Similar with Liverpool and whether we're playing badly or well and whether the red is deserved or not, I'd rather we give it a go. Under 'Arry we were the same, Crouch got sent off against Real Madrid, we kept at it and got battered, against we Inter we got battered but kept at it and almost produced the biggest turn around in CL history. There are going to be more batterings then there are draws and wins when you play like that but I think you've got to go for the spectacular and unbelievable in situations like that, it sticking 11 behind the ball and hoofing it for half a game anyway.
 
"Would you rather that at 2-0 down and 10 men we threw on defenders and not let any of our players leave their half?
That's the best chance we had of not having a few more goals put past us and I'm glad we didn't do it."

Absolutely. Just not the Spurs way.
 
We've appealed the Rose red, rather unsurprisingly. There's a poem in there, somewhere.
 
"Would you rather that at 2-0 down and 10 men we threw on defenders and not let any of our players leave their half?
That's the best chance we had of not having a few more goals put past us and I'm glad we didn't do it."

I'm glad as well. The one thing I really want to see is the team continuing to make an effort to win the game, however unlikely the chances of that become.

notsosmartspur said:
Yes it was the same team...who's been scoring though? he cannot score every game, so you have to have 'good' potential goal threat from elsewhere in the team, and imo we don't. Did Ade have a shot?, can't recall one, can't recall anything worthwhile in open play tbh, set pieces was our best bet and are they our strong point...no. You can excuse Ade with poor or no service, but doesn't that highlight my point even more?
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Ade and Eiriksen have been the only ones scoring since Sherwood took over, other than Lennon getting one, I think. Ade had that grazing header that Dawson put in, but easily could and probably should have put in another one of the corners, which just about grazed his leg in front of an open goal. We didn't get anything in open play, really, but we had a lot of one man to beat situations (though we never beat them well enough to get a decent shot...). The big problem there was no one attacking the goal. It was always one or two players down at their end against three or four.

But I may be arguing about something which we agree on. Are you saying we need to pick up a player who is a threat to score, or that we should have played someone else who had a better chance to score? Because if it was the latter, I don't know who it could be. Holtby hasn't scored as much as Gylfi. Personally, I'd give Holtby a chance on the left against Hull, if we aren't dead set on moving him, which I think we are. But I think he would have been both too lightweight and too slow against City. I was unpleasantly surprised to see Eiriksen look unable to handle City's speed and power, and Holtby is smaller and slower than Eiriksen.
 
There must be a goalscorer out there on this planet,surely, we can get.Anyone in the Championship,1st or 2nd who knows where the goal is........and when he's found the goal can lift his boot to put the bloody ball between the posts!!!!!?
 
....and when we find that player are there any defenders down there who will help us from giving goals away?
 
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