jck... As I've said before, your optimistic outlook is (sort of) commendable. The team will not go down without a fight, certainly, and no doubt Ole has some sort of plan. And yes, of course, anything is possible - that's why we watch the game. If we were, by some miracle, to get a point, or, dare one wish, three, it would be the greatest result in forty years, but you need to face facts. This Man City team is brilliant. They do what's needed, plus they put teams to the sword. The reality is that the Bookies are almost always right. See what odds they're giving and put a tenner down on a Cardiff win and the drinks will be on you. Anyway, off to find a stream... to drown myself in.