Mackay sacked
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Tan seems to be a bit of a prick, while Mackay seems like an okay dude.
But Tan changing the colors and being a jerk or whatever doesn't impact the football on the pitch. And he seemed to give Mackay a decent amount of financial support as far as transfer funds and wages.
So the bottom line to me is that Mackay wasn't getting the job done. And given the way they played against us, you can't say that Cardiff just needed time to gel or what can you expect first year in prem or whatever. They looked disorganized, and it didn't seem like the effort was there. That team looked far worse than Saints did when we were near the zone and Adkins got fired.
Tan might have made a quite a few outrageous decisions, but this is not one of them.
But Tan changing the colors and being a jerk or whatever doesn't impact the football on the pitch. And he seemed to give Mackay a decent amount of financial support as far as transfer funds and wages.
So the bottom line to me is that Mackay wasn't getting the job done. And given the way they played against us, you can't say that Cardiff just needed time to gel or what can you expect first year in prem or whatever. They looked disorganized, and it didn't seem like the effort was there. That team looked far worse than Saints did when we were near the zone and Adkins got fired.
Tan might have made a quite a few outrageous decisions, but this is not one of them.
To be fair Mackay had Cardiff up to 13th place at the beginning of November, at least matching expectations. It was then that the feud with Tan went public and I think that has had an effect on team and manager.
To be fair, that test is to ensure money isn't being laundered and that the person legitimately has access to the funds. Tan does. His money is fair. But, it can't legislate for oddball owners with a disregard of fanbases.
Mackay hitting back through Sky and saying Tan made contact with the bench to try and instigate subs. Telling Mackay he had to make certain subs etc.
I don't know how, after all this time, that you guys can still fail to understand what that means.
Well it should. Any prospective owners should be required to submit a detailed business plan to the FA detailing an accurate summary of finances including the source of the finances, predicted income and outgoings over a period of time (say five years). If the friggin' PST can do something like that, then surely any of these wealthy numpties can do the same. In addition, any changes to the club including proposed name changes, stadium changes, etc should also be included as part of the overall business plan and a 'statement of intent'. Furthermore, this plan should also include information on how the club is going to foster links with the local community, whether that's through existing schemes or implementing new schemes. It shouldn't just be if you have the money (or even if you don't) then that's enough. Think of it as a cross between a Dragon's Den pitch and a university application. The role of the FA is to act as a champion and to safeguard English football and the interests of the fans. In that it has failed.
At eighteen months, Brendan Rodgers is the fourth-longest-serving manager...and if Allardyce gets fired, he'll be third, behind Wenger and Pardew.
If the League Managers' Association is correct (and I don't doubt that they are), there are fewer managers with 3+ seasons at the same club in the top four divisions than there are managers who have been sacked in December. With Poch approaching one year, he has spent more time in his position than the majority of the currently-employed FL/PL managers.
So... tell us, how is the PST's business plan going? Did they plan to replace the manager after just four months of their first season?
I'm guessing they didn't. That's why you can't really expect detailed and precise plans from owners. No one knows what may happen.
There's nothing wrong with Tan's money. It's legit.
You can't test them for their personality. In any case, Tan could fake the test and tell them what they want to hear and then be in control of the company and do what he jolly well pleases.
It's nigh on impossible to moderate. At the end of the day, like it or not, he is 'fit and proper' financially and that's all they test at current.
I believe the Hull name change has to go through the FA and they do have the power to reject the idea.
As for shirt colour and crests this is up to the individual clubs and not really the responsibility of the FA. Perhaps if fans and current owners could legally protect certain aspects of a clubs identity from future owners but legally I imagine that could be a sticky wicket.
As for shirt colour and crests this is up to the individual clubs and not really the responsibility of the FA. Perhaps if fans and current owners could legally protect certain aspects of a clubs identity from future owners but legally I imagine that could be a sticky wicket.
He'll soon be the 8th when Allardyce gets the boot.
He could then become the 7th.
A poor next 2 games for Norwich could see Houghtons exit sped up with old boy mackay now available. Could be a good reunion.
Next 2 games home to man u and away to palace.
Anyone who sees my predictions in the prediction league will know this now won't happen.
For the FA & FL to carry out competent "Fit & Proper Persons tests" they would first need to have competent people at those associations conducting the test. Therein lies the problem.
I would not be surprised if the test begins and ends with an office teenager being told to use google & wiki.
I would not be surprised if the test begins and ends with an office teenager being told to use google & wiki.
Sadly I think you have a strange Idea PL as to what the FA can and can't do in its investigations as to the credentials of a prospective owner. Especially as far as the fans of the club go. They have limited powers when trying to establish the suitability and establishing whether the person has the funds. They cannot go further than confirming with the bank or the solicitors of the immediate availability of funds or reasonable sustainability and general reputation. A business plan only needs to be put to the financiers not the FA. Not an easy task for them to always get it right. Nothing is likely to be discussed about the fans or how he is likely to involve them in the decision making processes.
At least the PST have a business plan. And their business plan was based on crowds of around 10k so we're doing better than they predicted financially (if not on the pitch). Of course you can't predict every little thing that may occur, but having estimated income and outgoing figures is better than nothing. In addition, any competent owner will try to ensure their is some flexibility of outgoings to allow for any unforeseen things that may occur (e.g. sacking a manage), so basically ensuring outgoings aren't as high as 95% or more of income.
You're right people could just fake the test and answer what they think the FA wants to hear, but by making the process a bit harder, it will (hopefully) discourage the nutcases of the millionaire/billionaire world.
Indeed
The thing is though, it wouldn't require the FA to do any further investigation as most of the detail would be provided for by the prospective owners. If an average uni can go through thousands of applications every year, then surely the FA with all it's resources and personnel can go through a few dozen owner applications. Indeed, I would like there to be an interview process involved as well as part of a prospective owner's bid. It may prevent situations like that of Ali Al-Faraj, etc. But of course, the FA isn't run for football, nor is it accountable to anyone. It's just a way of some people going on a few jollies and make out that they're some kind of champion for football in this country when all they give a damn about is the perks and the glamour. There's a reason why FA also stands for ****ing awful.