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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by The RDBD, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Who was in charge of bringing players in? Were they AVBs players, Baldini's players or Levy's?
     
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  2. Spurm

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    As we know Europe doesn't mean much at this stage, and they just squeaked through in the end. I've not been as impressed with Swansea this season as previously.
     
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  3. Chirpy rides again

    Chirpy rides again Active Member

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    A sad day. If we hadn't spent £100m+ on players I think Levy would have seen it as a long term project and carried on with him. The worry is, it will be many years before the board back a manager with cash, no matter how successful he is. The whole thing is a ****ing shambles. Hiddink for me. There is talk of Capello (not sure but he doesn't seem a good fit) or Laudrup (seems to have been found out at Swansea.)
     
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  4. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    It does mean a lot if you're Swansea without meaning any disrespect. I guess they must've been bottom seed in their group and it was a tougher group than we had with a smaller squad. Top 10 and still in Europe is an impressive start to the season for Swansea.

    I'd take him over Pocchetino anyday.
     
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  5. CPofL KTBFFH

    CPofL KTBFFH New Member

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    They have a much smaller squad and it shows the difficulty of being in EL. Without EL I think they'd be doing better in the Prem.
     
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  6. CPofL KTBFFH

    CPofL KTBFFH New Member

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    I think the talk of Capello is simply because he was at the game at the weekend. He was working for the media though.

    That said it's unlikely you'd be getting beat 5-0 at home with him although the 3-0 v West Ham was worse because you had 11 men then and they are absolute ****e.
     
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  7. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. This is the worst of it.

    I said after Redknapp left that I saw us having to reinvest a lot in the near future and the brightside was that we could do that with a new long term manager. This has turned into a mess and levy has to get this next one right.

    Personally I think it is an attractive job. The new manager would have far less pressure on them and the players will benefit too, I think.
     
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  8. Spursguru

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    Loudrup has won a trophy with a small squad
    got them out of the group stage in a fairly difficult group
    has then fairly well placed in the league considering how many teams are considered to be having a blinder (with Pool, saints and Everton not in Europe)
    has players like Nathan Dyer and Routledge playing very good football most weeks, these players would not get in our team. Imagine how good Lennon, Lamela, Andros and Chadli could be with his coaching.

    Poch needs more time. Lots of managers can be good for a season or two (pards at Newc for example)
    he does have them playing some very good football, especially Lallana.
    But some of his transfers seem to be a bit hit and miss, and I would like to see how he does after at least one more season.


    It seems we missed the boat with Martinez and Rodgers (both excelling atm) so maybe we should jump on ML whilst we can before utd get him! <laugh>
     
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  9. Capello would be a good shout, even though I know a lot of fans would be against the appointment. Sure, the football would probably be dull and "safe" but we'd be a harder team to beat. With Capello in charge, our chances of top 4, even this season, would be drastically increased.

    Rafa? Possibly. My inclination is to say "no," but I am aware that that's principally because of my own natural bias against his clown-like persona, when there can be no doubting that he's a top manager. He will go down as one of Chelsea's greatest ever managers, for example.
     
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  10. Spursguru

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    I think the simple version is:

    Are these guys the absolute ideal for us? - No

    Are they better than AVB? - Yes
     
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  11. vimhawk

    vimhawk Well-Known Member

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    Better than AVB should not be among the considerations in any way shape or form. Best for Spurs should be the only consideration.
     
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  12. Inda

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    Should have happened weeks ago.

    Goodbye and thanks for **** all.
     
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  13. NSIS

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    I disagree with those who say that Laudrup has been "found out" at Swansea. Or that he has not had enough experience. IMO, he's done an excellent job with limited resources - if anything, Swansea have over achieved. The only thing that's been "found out" as far as I'm concerned is that Laudrup has the potential to be a great a manager, as he was a player...
     
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  14. One got the distinct impression with the club, over the past couple of months, that our players simply were not playing for AVB, and that's always the first sign that the manager has lost the dressing room. We need a manager who can come in and immediately get the players to take notice. Capello would do that, most definitely. So would Rafa, to be fair.
     
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  15. NSIS

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    Better than AVB is not exactly aiming very high!! Is it??...?I mean, it wouldn't be too difficult, would it?...
     
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  16. SpursOldboy

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    Yeah, well we hoped he had learned from his experience at Chelsea, and last year when he was prepared to change the style of play after a bad start to the season it seemed that was indeed the case. This year though he went back to his old ways and stubborn persistence with tactics that are both boring and obviously don't work against stronger sides. So I guess not.


    Hiddink would seem to be a sensible choice as replacement, he has a proven record and his teams play decent football. If we could get him on a temporary basis and then see how it looks at the end of the season that would be my choice. Better than taking a long term punt on one of the limited options that are available right now anyway.

    Just please not Capello...
     
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  17. Spursguru

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    Ok, I like the theory but in practice who is better for Spurs than these two that is not currently being considered?
     
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  18. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Capello certainly did not do that in the England job - the usual suspects in the dressing room thought they knew better, leading to dire football and disjointed performances (although, as it was England, what's new?)
     
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  19. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    "Spurs aren't patient enough for Rafa"

    Just not worth the aggro for him. Nor would I wish it on him (Chelsky was bad enough) .
     
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  20. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    Yet more changes at Spurs.

    It's got to work eventually, right?
     
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