From BU post on the 'other board' ---- "Slate us all you want on MBs but as far as i'm concerned we are the only hope of getting Tan and this evil regime removed ....." Evil regime ... Hardly Darth Vader or Hitler is he? A bit of perspective or a bit of a brain required in the BU movement methinks. No wonder they've alienated so many ordinary fans, who sympathise with their cause (who does not prefer blue?) but can't stand their rhetoric and attitude to anyone who doesn't belong in their fanatical little group. They have got vey confused about the difference between 'remove the owner' and 'change the shirts' - it's not the same thing. BU should have stuck to their main message and reason for being - and denounced the nutter element as soon as they reared their ugly heads.
"Slate us all you want on MBs but as far as i'm concerned we are the only hope of getting Tan and this evil regime removed ....." Got someone with £150m+ in his back pocket have they? What a bunch of numpties. They need to wake up and smell a bit of reality. And how many of them are there?
12 months to late, Started with good intentions but then the real reason why most had joined shone through.
As you say Iggy we all agree on the blue but when it becomes this huge political issue that is looking to force regime change on the club it's hard to believe that will be for the good of the club. After years of not knowing what the club will be/whether it will even exist after each summer I'm just enjoying the stability as much as the PL football! They've used the Moody thing to support their cause but like I said then and it's true no one knows why that all happened. It does seem MM still doesn't agree with the decision overall, but there has to be more to that story than VT threw his toys from the pram. Does anyone know what happened to Simon Lim? Is he coming back/back yet?
BU started with banners about modern football and ended with drunks climbing all over the FK statue shouting threats.
It's a sad state of affairs, and ironic that they want bluebirds to unite but account for quite a bit of the division. What some of them say is akin to a political party telling the very people they need to vote for them, that they are all scum and not fit to be British, very strange it is allowed to happen on their site. The idea is sound enough, and not many disagree with their thoughts on the rebrand itself, we would all like to get back to blue I'm sure. If they had stuck to this ideal they might have had a lot more on their marches, instead they have the other fans condemning them for being too aggressive in their wanting Tan out movement, which seems to have more than a foothold in the camp.
Funny you all want to be blue but can't be arsed to do anything about it, apathy is the order of the day .
There is a difference between buying out a going concern and buying a down at heel club for next to nothing with all it's debts written off in the process. If we had gone into administration when Hamman walked then maybe the fan base at that time could've done something, but Dato Chan popped up and then did VT to bring the club on, so you cannot apply what the Swans did because you were bought on the cheap (in all respects) whereas a Championship club (at the time) was not going to come cheap.
Only fans who get wound up about our ownership situation still are Swansea fans. It would be a positive **** fest down west if we started tearing the club to bits over the shirt colour. Grudgingly accepting a situation you can't have a positive effect on for what it is and apathy are two very different things. Are any fans apathetic about their club? Seems a very strange criticism. You may slag off all manor of things about our fans but to describe people bothering to give up their time to discuss a club on the web (almost all the local ones are St holders too) as apathetic is an oxymoron surely?
Cough, cough, splutter...... wheeze........ Sorry fella's, just dusting off the keyboard and coming out of hibernation.... Been ages since my last post but figured I'd throw my two penneth worth in, although in truth I totally agree with the rest of you that the BU bunch have lost sight of what they should be campaigning for... Trying to drive VT out will be tantermount to committing suicide. When you look at the amount he has ploughed in (albeit as interest free loans still) and all the good he and the board have done (bringing Malky in in the first place, stadium expansion, new training ground plans, and of course providing funds for players) then they really must be either rather narrow minded or insane. Yes, we'd all like the blue back but the best way around that is don't buy the red and keep campaigning to bring the blue back through petitions, the odd demo, use if humour in the press and statistics on shirt sales etc.... I must confess, my concerns have grown a little that VT is trying to change the clubs identity further. The change of the pictures on the front of the stadium so both are red and Ali's announcements when the team comes out (noticed on Sunday that we were only referred to as Cardiff City, whereas that has traditionally been followed by his shout of "the Bluebirds") are both indicators that little things are being amended, all of which will not be lost on old gits like us but that will go unnoticed by younger, newer fans and over time will become accepted norms. However, despite my concerns I would not want to see VT forced out as I for one believe he has done far more good than bad and is by far the best owner we've had in a long while when it comes to taking the club forward and being forward thinking... Right, piece said, I'm off again now but will keep popping back in from time to time... Oh, and as I did't come on to gloat previously... 1-0 to the Capital.....
I think we have to accept that VT is as locked in now as possibly can be....save for a full debt equity swap. yes he is owed a s**tload of money but as commented here...that is all interest free and unsecured. There are, I think, mortgages on the stadium (or maybe not) but the fact is, if VT left and demanded his money back, he would lose the vast majority of it. Yes, we'd end up in administration and drop 10 points but the crux is that VT would take a bath on his investment.....and he's not that stupid. The ground is virtually the only collateral worth anything in the company books and that's not going anywhere.
Nice to hear from you Brizzle. You must be enjoying a quiet (or not so quiet) gloat over the trials and tribulations at Ashtip Gate. Poor little Wurzels - NOT!!!!
