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Northern Ireland's police "colluded with loyalists to cover up Catholic murders"

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction, Oct 24, 2013.

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    <laugh>.
     
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  2. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    Maybe.

    You're not northern Irish, and I believe you are anti-Union <ok>
     
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    Not many and none that i would know . I take little interest in Ireland . I don't know who Pat Finucane was or why his murder whould be treated any different than thousands of others who were slaughtered .
     
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    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    I am anti everything mate :wink:
     
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    That's nice :emoticon-0118-yawn:
     
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    No I wouldn't wee man.

    But some police officers and UDR members have admitted it.

    Everyone knows that.

    The reason the police used loyalist paramilitaries back then was the same reason that people go to paramilitaries over the police to this day. They find out the truth and deliver punishment without a slimey lawyer getting them off the hook.

    Everyone knew who the main men in the RA were yet could do nothing at times due to the actions of the likes of Finucane and Rosemary Nelson. To this day the police know who the main men are but as quick as they are lifted they are released again.

    Not saying it is right, but in places like South Armagh and mid ulster where the prod community were a minority and under attack the police and UDR turned to loyalist paramilitaries.
     
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    Hitler was a short arse and had terrible BO as well. Common trait with Dictators.
     
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    If the state was legitimate in using terrorism against its own citizens then those citizens have legitimacy using terrorism against the state. You can't have your cake and eat it.
     
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    But were the state legitimising it?

    There's crooked cops everywhere in the world.
     
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    This was far more than "Crooked cops" you dumb ****.
     
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    <rofl>

    The stupidest **** on this site calling every other **** "dumb" <laugh><rofl>

    That's Russ Provan for you <magic><bubbly>

    Here comes "pathetic"

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    Another attack on Dev<whistle>
     
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    Very true Medro but in a country that apparently prides itself on upholding freedoms and looking after the best interests of its citizens (permission for Mick, Ciaran and co to collapse in heaps of giggles now granted) crooked cops should be rooted out and brought to book regardless of how long ago the offences were commited.
     
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    As I said I'm not making excuses for crooked cops, but it happens. I don't believe for a second that the top brass where turning a blind eye to rogue cops commiting murder.
     
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    I do
     
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    Well we'll just have to wait for this evidence to come out then.
     
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    It's hard not to believe it - at times I would imagine all sides involved treated it like a war situation - anything goes and all that.......
     
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    Not that I necessarily believe this, but using your logic that it was a few crooked cops who killed civilians, I could argue it was a few crooked IRA men who killed civilians, considering the IRA killed a lot more combatants as a ratio to civilians.

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    Oh what have we here - a conspiratorialist perchance.
     
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    http://www.u.tv/News/Police-colluded-with-loyalist-gang/d0ef5f3d-09b5-4504-9419-f40993440713

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    Dee in Newtownabbey wrote (16 hours ago):
    @JAE in Fermanagh. You call this 'republican hogwash' despite the fact the evidence comes from Her Majesty's police force, whom I presume you'd profess loyalty to. Do you realise how ridiculous you, and others who bury their head in sand about this issue, sound to the rest of the rational, open-minded people who read these boards. Unionists need to get their heads out of the tribal sandpit and accept the indisputable. The evidence is overwhelming and unequivocal.

    joe in belfast wrote (16 hours ago):
    can anyone with a little bit of humanity ever come on this without sayin 'yeah .but what about the other side'...this is paid police officers who were in a position of trust involved in not only killing terrorists but innocent human beings and if the garda were involved in the same murderous acts everyone should be held accountable no matter who they are , so wise up bigots

    michael in Shankill Road UK wrote (16 hours ago):
    Being honest I would give all members of the RUC and UDR a knighthood for what they put up with during all those years!

    Gerard K in Belfast wrote (16 hours ago):
    So, evidence has been made available that proves there was collusion between security forces and loyalist terrorists (a fact known by the Nationalist community)and we have the usual PUL members on disputing facts or "whataboutery". The Pat Finucane Centre received the information from the HET, employed by Government. The bottom line is that hundreds of innocent people lost their lives here as a direct result of collusion between loyalists and those employed to uphold law and order. If that was replicated on the other side that too needs to be investigated.

    JAE in Fermanagh wrote (16 hours ago):
    REPUBLICAN HOG WASH!
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