Poyet still favourite with the bookies

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C19RK73

C19RK73

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Jul 26, 2012
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Push comes to shove?

Dunno if we've had one of these or not

Its a no from me, no premiership experience, seems desperate and a big gob
 
smithy in nl said:
I wouldn't be annoyed if Bally got it full time tbh..
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Suck it and see with bally for me like, as stu said, he's too valuable to the club on a whole to be given the right opportunity at the wrong time, he does so much good for the club that i would hate to see him full time atm but one day yes, unless he works wonders of course
 
paradiddles said:
he's a bit keen if this is true

Poyet rules out potential rival candidates for Sunderland hotseat by personally calling them to see if they want the job

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...acts-rival-candidates-Sunderland-hotseat.html


He's been quoted in a few tabloids with the same sort of babble mate, divvent need a gob like that anywhere near our club!

Safc will always be a huge opportunity for someone, could proppel you into international contention or **** you up, the later is usually the case

Odds shortening accross the board by the minute


http://www.oddschecker.com/football.../next-permanent-manager?mobile_redirect=false
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The Roberto Effect said:
Rumours circulating that we have turned gus down!
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The problem I have with inexperienced managers and some of these high-flying foreign managers and ex-Man U coaches we have been linked with is they do not have experience of managing in the Prem. Villas-Boas and Scolari found out the learning curve, pace and competitiveness of the Prem and whilst one has gone on to prosper after a while the other has gone and bare in mind both were sacked. I am using these two as examples but there has been many more at different clubs. What we have is an unbalanced, 14 new player team, lacking in confidence, one point in 5 games that need an experienced head around them and someone to drive them on especially on the training pitch. In my opinion what they probably don't need is a manager that is going to take time to settle themselves, click their fingers and make it all happen..

The names linked will turn any Sunderland fan on, getting the right one, the right team might prove more difficult..
 
V-Joe.. said:
The problem I have with inexperienced managers and some of these high-flying foreign managers and ex-Man U coaches we have been linked with is they do not have experience of managing in the Prem. Villas-Boas and Scolari found out the learning curve, pace and competitiveness of the Prem and whilst one has gone on to prosper after a while the other has gone and bare in mind both were sacked. I am using these two as examples but there has been many more at different clubs. What we have is an unbalanced, 14 new player team, lacking in confidence, one point in 5 games that need an experienced head around them and someone to drive them on especially on the training pitch. In my opinion what they probably don't need is a manager that is going to take time to settle themselves, click their fingers and make it all happen..

The names linked will turn any Sunderland fan on, getting the right one, the right team might prove more difficult..
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Spot on imo mate, this is why i think out of all the candidates mentioned and i may need a tin hat, avram grant for me or even dare i say it? The wally with the brolly
 
Avram grant c.v impressive as fook


Personal information
Full name Avraham Grant
Date of birth 6 February 1955 (age 58)
Place of birth Petah Tikva, Israel
Youth career
Team
Hapoel Petah Tikva
Teams managed
Years Team
1972–1986 Hapoel Petah Tikva (youth)
1986–1991 Hapoel Petah Tikva
1991–1995 Maccabi Tel Aviv
1995–1996 Hapoel Haifa
1996–2000 Maccabi Tel Aviv
2000–2002 Maccabi Haifa
2002–2006 Israel
2007–2008 Chelsea
2009–2010 Portsmouth
2010–2011 West Ham United
2012 Partizan Belgrade
Avraham "Avram" Grant (Hebrew: אברהם "אברם" גרנט‎; born Avraham Granat[1] on 6 February 1955) is an Israeli football manager. Grant has spent the majority of his career coaching and managing in Israel, winning a number of national league and cup victories with different teams, and also managing the Israeli national team for four years.

Grant moved to England in 2006 to become Technical Director of Portsmouth before being appointed Director of football at Chelsea in July 2007. Two months later, in September 2007, following the departure of José Mourinho, Grant was appointed manager of Chelsea. Despite steering the team into the Champions League final, the League Cup final and contesting the Premier League title to the last day, his contract was terminated at the end of the season.[2]

Grant returned to Portsmouth as Director of football in October 2009, and was made manager the following month.[3] After the club's relegation to the Football League Championship Grant resigned[4] and, on 3 June 2010, was appointed as manager of West Ham United,[5] a role he held up until 15 May 2011, when he was sacked after the club was relegated to the Football League Championship.[6]

On 13 January 2012, Avram Grant was named the new manager of Partizan Belgrade. After guiding Partizan to their fifth consecutive Serbian championship, Grant resigned on 14 May 2012.

Biography
Career
Managerial statistics
Honours

With Hapoel Petah Tikva:
Toto Cup Al (2): 1989–90; 1990–91
With Maccabi Tel Aviv:
Israeli championships (2): 1991–92; 1994–95
Israel State Cup: 1993–94
Toto Cup Al (2): 1992–93; 1998–99
With Maccabi Haifa:
Israeli championships (2): 2000–01; 2001–02
With Chelsea:
Premier League: 2007–08 (runner-up)
UEFA Champions League: 2007–08 (runner-up)
Football League Cup: 2007–08 (runner-up)
With Portsmouth:
FA Cup: 2009–10 (runner-up)
With Partizan Belgrade:
Serbian SuperLiga (1): 2011–12
 
The Roberto Effect said:
Avram grant c.v impressive as fook


Personal information
Full name Avraham Grant
Date of birth 6 February 1955 (age 58)
Place of birth Petah Tikva, Israel
Youth career
Team
Hapoel Petah Tikva
Teams managed
Years Team
1972–1986 Hapoel Petah Tikva (youth)
1986–1991 Hapoel Petah Tikva
1991–1995 Maccabi Tel Aviv
1995–1996 Hapoel Haifa
1996–2000 Maccabi Tel Aviv
2000–2002 Maccabi Haifa
2002–2006 Israel
2007–2008 Chelsea
2009–2010 Portsmouth
2010–2011 West Ham United
2012 Partizan Belgrade
Avraham "Avram" Grant (Hebrew: אברהם "אברם" גרנט‎; born Avraham Granat[1] on 6 February 1955) is an Israeli football manager. Grant has spent the majority of his career coaching and managing in Israel, winning a number of national league and cup victories with different teams, and also managing the Israeli national team for four years.

Grant moved to England in 2006 to become Technical Director of Portsmouth before being appointed Director of football at Chelsea in July 2007. Two months later, in September 2007, following the departure of José Mourinho, Grant was appointed manager of Chelsea. Despite steering the team into the Champions League final, the League Cup final and contesting the Premier League title to the last day, his contract was terminated at the end of the season.[2]

Grant returned to Portsmouth as Director of football in October 2009, and was made manager the following month.[3] After the club's relegation to the Football League Championship Grant resigned[4] and, on 3 June 2010, was appointed as manager of West Ham United,[5] a role he held up until 15 May 2011, when he was sacked after the club was relegated to the Football League Championship.[6]

On 13 January 2012, Avram Grant was named the new manager of Partizan Belgrade. After guiding Partizan to their fifth consecutive Serbian championship, Grant resigned on 14 May 2012.

Biography
Career
Managerial statistics
Honours

With Hapoel Petah Tikva:
Toto Cup Al (2): 1989–90; 1990–91
With Maccabi Tel Aviv:
Israeli championships (2): 1991–92; 1994–95
Israel State Cup: 1993–94
Toto Cup Al (2): 1992–93; 1998–99
With Maccabi Haifa:
Israeli championships (2): 2000–01; 2001–02
With Chelsea:
Premier League: 2007–08 (runner-up)
UEFA Champions League: 2007–08 (runner-up)
Football League Cup: 2007–08 (runner-up)
With Portsmouth:
FA Cup: 2009–10 (runner-up)
With Partizan Belgrade:
Serbian SuperLiga (1): 2011–12
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If we give him the job I will lose the ****ing will to live
 
AS much as I would hate to see him manage my team, 'Arry would be a good choice. QPR did quite well when he got appointed, but it was only cos Hughes was given to much time he couldn't rescue them. I would ****in hate Harry here, but he would do the job.
 
Gustavo Poyet's desperation to be named the new Sunderland manager is continuing apace as he spoke about how he has been pestering his former Chelsea teammates to see if they have any interest in the job.

Speaking to South American radio stations, the Uruguayan told how he'd contacted fellow out of work manager Roberto Di Matteo, and Watford boss Gianfranco Zola;

I called him and said "Really, are you interested?" and he said "No." I said "Good, thank you. One less!

Another was Gianfranco Zola.
While expressing his glee that the two had ruled themselves out of the running, he also seemed to show he had a little bit of knowledge of Sunderland's situation;

It's a team with lots of backroom staff and scouting staff from Italy.

It was possible it would have been easier to go down that line, for the understanding between people from the same country.

It's a new team, very international, and it would be convenient for the new person to speak various languages.

You wouldn't need to have translators continually. That is something that helps me, because I have that ability.
All very valid points from Poyet, but the question marks remain over the sheer level of his desperation to be given the role, which may be seen as a hinderance. There's also the fact he's not managed at this level before.

An appointment isn't likely to be made any time soon as Sunderland still want to talk to other candidates, including former Manchester United man Rene Meulensteen and Basel boss Murat Yakin, although the latter is said to be a rank outsider for the position.

Meulensteen remains an outsider too, but his odds are coming in after stalling on a deal to become part of Martin Jol's backroom staff at Fulham.

He brings a wealth of experience as a coach, and has lots of respect from players within the game for his innovation on the training ground.
 
What a friggin mess this is.


We should have held on to Martin O'Neill and let him build his vision over 2 or 3 years. We could have limped over the line as we did with PDC anyway and still had a man with a massive wealth of experience and talent managing the club. Instead we let loose a friggin lunatic on the club and he just ripped the heart and soul out of us in 6 months and now we are scratching about looking for Avram Grant, Tony Pulis or Steve McClaren to 'rescue us'. Gus Poyet might do a job but I'm not convinced anymore as he looks a bit too desperate to me. Roberto di Matteo would have been a better option but he wants a bigger club with a European portfolio. Cant blame him for that.

Me? I'd go cap in hand back to MoN and tell him we made a mistake but that will never happen and if we did he'd probably tell us to **** off (I would ) so we are left with a hatful of uninspiring names.

Give it to Bally till Christmas and see what he does with it. If we are still struggling we can bring someone in for the 2nd half of the campaign and Bally can go back to the reserves/under 21's honour intact. If he galvanizes the players and fans and scraps some points then all the better and he can be made permanent in January. Thats the best scenario imo.
 
Forza Cest said:
What a friggin mess this is.


We should have held on to Martin O'Neill and let him build his vision over 2 or 3 years. We could have limped over the line as we did with PDC anyway and still had a man with a massive wealth of experience and talent managing the club. Instead we let loose a friggin lunatic on the club and he just ripped the heart and soul out of us in 6 months and now we are scratching about looking for Avram Grant, Tony Pulis or Steve McClaren to 'rescue us'. Gus Poyet might do a job but I'm not convinced anymore as he looks a bit too desperate to me. Roberto di Matteo would have been a better option but he wants a bigger club with a European portfolio. Cant blame him for that.

Me? I'd go cap in hand back to MoN and tell him we made a mistake but that will never happen and if we did he'd probably tell us to **** off (I would ) so we are left with a hatful of uninspiring names.

Give it to Bally till Christmas and see what he does with it. If we are still struggling we can bring someone in for the 2nd half of the campaign and Bally can go back to the reserves/under 21's honour intact. If he galvanizes the players and fans and scraps some points then all the better and he can be made permanent in January. Thats the best scenario imo.
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I don't agree with you at all here mate

Last season was the biggest pile of dross I have ever seen at the stadium of light.

MON had lost it. No doubt about it in my mind. Unfortunately we appointed him 10 years too late
 
Voted no but reckon he is probably what we will get and, is probably the best of a bad bunch so won't be too nicked off if he came.
 
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