Thoughts on the Everton match

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!
Whilst I'd love to see us having a go and trying to annihilate teams, I think simply having a positive mind set and going there to win is the order of the day.
That said I think we may be should start to view ourselves in a positive light.
Everton are step up on us and they clearly came to CR looking for the win. I would like to think that in our 3rd PL season and with the squad developing nicely that we would perhaps be a step up on hull and also go there looking to win.
I think vs Everton we can see that things may not change a great deal and the added quality just means we should be better equiped to not lose but pinch goals.
i may be wrong but I though on Saturday that it was only after we scored that Everton really started to stretch us. They played a lot of football infront of us uptil then and i wonder if we actually allowed them more space when we scored because we gained confidence and attacked a bit more leaving things a little to open (ironic given my critisims of the negative football CH plays) I think against lesser sides than Everton and when we are at full strength thats great but may be saturday was not one of those days to open up.

Bah!

That is dangerous talk! We'll be supporting them next!
 
I think going in to any premier league game thinking "we have to annihilate them" is only going to leave you disappointed. The aim should be to win though of course.

I agree, I think we should have a balanced approach, defend our half and take chances when they come. If we go in with the attitude of this is Hull we can "annihilate them" we will come unstuck, overconfidence can be a serious weakness.

As I said earlier give them respect but we need to have the self belief. It's not going to be easy match but we need to raise our game.
 
As I said earlier give them respect but we need to have the self belief. It's not going to be easy match but we need to raise our game.

Our major problem last season was winning against the teams at the bottom half of the table, why do you think this was the case?, personally I'm not sure. Beat Man U, Everton etc but struggled against teams at the lower end. :confused:
 
As I said earlier give them respect but we need to have the self belief. It's not going to be easy match but we need to raise our game.

Our major problem last season was winning against the teams at the bottom half of the table, why do you think this was the case?, personally I'm not sure. Beat Man U, Everton etc but struggled against teams at the lower end. :confused:

A combination of new tactics and players getting used to a new manager, some people might even say confidence was low at the club, after Christmas fitness was a massive factor too.

Either way we look at it new clubs are hungry and determined I'll give them that, you can perhaps question quality of their teams. We have to match their determination but keep the game neat.
 
As I said earlier give them respect but we need to have the self belief. It's not going to be easy match but we need to raise our game.

I know what you are trying to say Northampton and I agree. Positive mindset was there the other day we didn't give up at 2-1 and could have won the game on several occasions ourselves.

If we are looking evenly matched with Everton at full strength with a depleted squad, a team that if they can hold on to their players will definitely be challenging for Europe, I think we are doing ok
 
Whilst I'd love to see us having a go and trying to annihilate teams, I think simply having a positive mind set and going there to win is the order of the day.
That said I think we may be should start to view ourselves in a positive light.
Everton are step up on us and they clearly came to CR looking for the win. I would like to think that in our 3rd PL season and with the squad developing nicely that we would perhaps be a step up on hull and also go there looking to win.
I think vs Everton we can see that things may not change a great deal and the added quality just means we should be better equiped to not lose but pinch goals.
i may be wrong but I though on Saturday that it was only after we scored that Everton really started to stretch us. They played a lot of football infront of us uptil then and i wonder if we actually allowed them more space when we scored because we gained confidence and attacked a bit more leaving things a little to open (ironic given my critisims of the negative football CH plays) I think against lesser sides than Everton and when we are at full strength thats great but may be saturday was not one of those days to open up.

Bah!

That's how I saw it too. Saturday was very similar IMO to the home games against the better sides last season. Against Arsenal and Man Utd we managed to snatch the lead and keep it; on the day they weren't able to produce anything to match Barkley's great strike and so unlock the door. As Northampton says, with last season's defensive lessons learned, we should be more confident about our ability to keep less potent sides at bay, and that in turn should give us more confidence going forward. But it is always a question of getting the balance right. If you don't defend properly, even the less potent sides have the ability to make you pay. <ok>
 
I hate to be nitpicking but here's a quick lesson in Dutch, chapter use of capital characters in names:

The first character of the first name is always written in capitals in Dutch, like Ricky.
In Dutch however, surnames can consist of up three and very rarely four words, for example: van der Vaart.
Now the capital rule doesn't apply for the words in the middle when this is a van/de/der/den/in/ten or similar, like in: Rafael van der Vaart, Gregory van der Wiel, Marco van Ginkel, Frank de Boer, Ruud van Nistelrooij.

Now here comes the tricky part: if the first name isn't used the rule doesn't apply. If you say just Van Wolfswinkel, the Van is regarded as first character in the name which means the capital character returns. Van der Vaart, Van der Wiel. Notice that the der is still written without the capital letter as this is still a word in the middle.

In Flemmish/Belgium the rules are even more difficult :cheesy:
 
We need to work on retaining the ball and neaten things up, Saturday was a massive test because teams like Everton like to hassle other clubs in possession, our midfield had no time to breathe. Nerves contribute to a lot of this in my opinion.

The other area to work on is not being overly casual and switching off, I thought the build up to their second goal was down to this, that will improve with match sharpness.
 
I hate to be nitpicking but here's a quick lesson in Dutch, chapter use of capital letters in names:

The first letter of the first name is always written in capitals in Dutch, like Ricky.
In Dutch however, surnames can consist of up three and very rarely four words, for example: van der Vaart.
Now the capital rule doesn't apply for the words in the middle when this is a van/de/der/den/in/ten or similar, like in: Rafael van der Vaart, Gregory van der Wiel, Marco van Ginkel, Frank de Boer, Ruud van Nistelrooij.

Now here comes the tricky part: if the first name isn't used the rule doesn't apply. If you say just Van Wolfswinkel, the Van is regarded as first letter in the name which means the capital letter returns. Van der Vaart, Van der Wiel. Notice that the der is still written without the capital letter as this is still a word in the middle.

In Flemmish/Belgium the rules are even more difficult :cheesy:

Thanks Cove. Currently people are still wrestling with the spelling of Hughton, but once this enormous hurdle has been overcome, I'm sure that in the occasional article where Norwich are miraculously even mentioned, vague attempts will be made to spell Ricky vAn WolfsWinkel's name correctly.
 
We need to work on retaining the ball and neaten things up, Saturday was a massive test because teams like Everton like to hassle other clubs in possession, our midfield had no time to breathe. Nerves contribute to a lot of this in my opinion.

The other area to work on is not being overly casual and switching off, I thought the build up to their second goal was down to this, that will improve with match sharpness.

Agreed. That's one reason why I think it might be useful to have an experienced "old head" in there. But Fer may make a huge difference in this respect also. For one thing he appears quick and able to accelerate out of trouble. <ok>
 
Agreed. That's one reason why I think it might be useful to have an experienced "old head" in there. But Fer may make a huge difference in this respect also. For one thing he appears quick and able to accelerate out of trouble. <ok>

Trouble is, if he makes a few people look silly in getting away, I can see him getting the old fashioned treatment where centre forwards used to make their presence felt quite painfully if the centre half was too clever!
 
Trouble is, if he makes a few people look silly in getting away, I can see him getting the old fashioned treatment where centre forwards used to make their presence felt quite painfully if the centre half was too clever!

I'm looking forward to Fer v Fellaini, whether in the return with Everton or v Man Utd. <ok>
 
I hate to be nitpicking but here's a quick lesson in Dutch, chapter use of capital letters in names:

The first letter of the first name is always written in capitals in Dutch, like Ricky.
In Dutch however, surnames can consist of up three and very rarely four words, for example: van der Vaart.
Now the capital rule doesn't apply for the words in the middle when this is a van/de/der/den/in/ten or similar, like in: Rafael van der Vaart, Gregory van der Wiel, Marco van Ginkel, Frank de Boer, Ruud van Nistelrooij.

Now here comes the tricky part: if the first name isn't used the rule doesn't apply. If you say just Van Wolfswinkel, the Van is regarded as first letter in the name which means the capital letter returns. Van der Vaart, Van der Wiel. Notice that the der is still written without the capital letter as this is still a word in the middle.

In Flemmish/Belgium the rules are even more difficult :cheesy:

i'll try to remember but i only tend to use capital letters when writing articles anyway! <laugh>