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Danny Graham

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by StrovolosTiger, Jul 15, 2013.

  1. Fettis the striker

    Fettis the striker Well-Known Member

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    Because I would imagine that most people with strikers will opt for the top strikers in the league , whilst I think graham is very good business on a season long loan I'm not sure he will out score rvp !
     
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  2. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Back-up for Juve, hardly played first team last year. The story is he gets In the Italy team whilst not playing for Juve.
     
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  3. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much for the reasons Fettis said. Danny Graham can score goals at this level; he gives us something different and it takes pressure off Aluko, Fryatt and Proschwitz, none of whom have played in the Premier League. As it's a loan, it leaves cash for strengthening in other areas and I imagine Bruce will want to bring in at least another striker and a midfielder.
     
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  4. Ajbtiger

    Ajbtiger Well-Known Member

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    To get him on loan is great business, I thought that any striker we loaned would be a young unproven player but to bring in a player who has scored a fair few goals in the prem is great and should leave some cash to buy another st or strengthen other areas. I'd like us to buy a young promising striker that if we do go back down is happy with the challenge of getting us back up.
     
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  5. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Tony Watt from Celtic if they don't want silly money for him. Notice that Hooper has been removed from the Celtic wiki page...
     
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  6. StrovolosTiger

    StrovolosTiger Well-Known Member

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    I've always liked "try-before-you-buy" so I guess this is a good move.

    Still don't think he will score the goals to keep us up so will only be really at ease when we sign someone who will.
     
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    <laugh>!
     
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  8. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    What exactly is funny about that? How much Italian football do you watch? Anyone on here will tell you I'm a huge fan of it. I saw every single Serie A goal last season whilst not seeing a single EPL goal. I have been a season ticket holder at Inter and have been to watch them all over Italy. If there's one thing in this world I know, it's Italian football.

    So if you'd care to tell me what is wrong with the statement I made and what made you laugh then I'd be all ears.
     
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  9. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    He only made 10 starts, even got subbed off at half time once.

    No denying he's a good player but Bum Chin wasn't lying.

    Plus I'd bet my arse bum chin knows more about him than almost any of your fans anyway, he's more bothered about Italian football than he is about his own club. I think he even supports Italy's national team...
     
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    Welcome the little maestro

    Sunderland boss Paolo Di Canio has pulled off a real masterstroke by acquiring Emanuele Giaccherini from Juventus. Despite often being something of a periphery figure as the 'Old Lady' of Italian football have swept to successive Scudettos, the 28-year-old schemer genuinely qualifies as a terrific little player.

    As a regular follower of Italian football, I've been able to admire Giacccherini's progress since arriving from the provincial Cesena a couple of years ago. It hasn't always been easy for him, with Juve's esteemed coach Antonio Conte often electing on a more supportive role from the bench for the creative little midfield player. Either that or allowing him to plug the gaps when big names like Marchisio or Vidal were unexpectedly ruled out of the equation, when by rights he should really have been one of the first names on his team-sheet. National coach Cesare Prandelli would definitely share that view as the diminutive warrior has proved a regular favourite of his during his three-year spell in charge.

    Giaccherini starred for Italy on their way to the final of the European Championship last year - albeit in an unfamiliar left-back role. But that wouldn't phase him at all and he was as committed
    and impressive as ever. More recently the willing little runner was preferred to operate directly on the shoulder of the enigmatic Mario Balotelli as the Italians rather stuttered their way into the last four of the Confederations Cup before eventually succumbing to a fortunate Spain in a penalty shoot-out. Such is his apparent versatility. But with a lovely first touch and an admirable capacity of switching either left or right in an instant, plus an added bonus of being able to finish, on occasions explosively with either foot, Giaccherini is more than capable of providing a purring engine for the Black Cats this season.

    Di Canio should, however, reap greatest dividends if employing him in his favoured role, chasing wide down the left and cutting dangerously inside. His delivery is often decisive, and while by no means a prolific goalscorer - an average return of one in five games at Cesena was promptly doubled during his frustratingly stop-start career in Turin - Giaccherini can undoubtedly offer Sunderland plenty, both going forward and working back.

    In fairness, Conte didn't exactly want to lose the player as he readies his squad for a third successive title charge. Rumours already persist of him perhaps turning to ex-West Ham playmaker Alessandro Diamanti from Bologna, with a fee of around £10m being mentioned. Although something of a maverick figure, Diamanti is another extremely talented, although markedly different individual. He's some two years older and probably a couple of million pounds more expensive than Giaccherini, who is an absolute steal for the Wearsiders if a reported £8m is correct. There's no doubting who's getting the better deal, for while a Diamanti in the mood may creatively offer more, especially from set-pieces, Giaccherini really is the complete package.

    Juve's loss is therefore surely Sunderland's fortunate gain, and their reward to the player of hopefully a regular starting place should allow a talent that has rather bubbled under the surface in his homeland for the past couple of seasons, despite his club's ongoing success, to finally begin to scale the heights that his own ability and application surely demands. And if that's the case then both player and manager alike, and more importantly Sunderland FC, will be the ones with plenty of cause to celebrate.
     
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    ^^^^^^^

    I bet this reporter knows more than the two of you together.

    I seem him at the Confed cup and you can tell he's a quality player.
     
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  12. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    When they're not playing England I do. When they do play England I feel like Mr Charlton watching Man Utd vs TWS.
     
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  13. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    At what point did I say he wasnt a 'quality player'? I said he was back-up for Juventus and you laughed.

    And if you do trust this reporter then the opening ****ing sentence COMPLETELY backs me up:
    'Sunderland boss Paolo Di Canio has pulled off a real masterstroke by acquiring Emanuele Giaccherini from Juventus. Despite often being something of a periphery figure as the 'Old Lady' of Italian football have swept to successive Scudettos, the 28-year-old schemer genuinely qualifies as a terrific little player.

    You really have made yourself look a twat there Im afraid.
     
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  14. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    One quarter of all his minutes on the pitch across all competitions came in his 3 starts in the copa italia.

    As good a player as he may be, I'm surprised a national team like Italy had a reserve player who barely touched the pitch all season as a key player.
     
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  15. lewisc29

    lewisc29 Idiot

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    Nobody said he wasn't a good signing, just that he wasn't playing regularly. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be leaving Juventus to play for you!
     
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  16. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    He's not a 'key' player, he's a squad player really who did very well in the summer but yes your point remains. Obviously Prandelli sees something that Conte doesnt. I think Juve are seen as very workmanlike as it is so having another player such as Giaccherini who embodies that and is a utility man would only add to it. He's keen to make that next step this summer with genuine top talent and with the signings of Lorente, Tevez and Ogbonna whilst shifting on some of the periphery bodies like Matri, Quagierella, Vucinic and indeed Giaccherini they hope to do that.

    I see Safc83 seems to have gone a bit quiet. I think we shattered his illusions that Sunlan had picked up Juve's number 1 fans favourite and key to everything they did in their recent 2 scudetto wins....

    Nah, you're wrong. He's always been a fan at heart ever since first hearing the Roker Roar and is willing to give up his first name on the teamsheet status to swap those nothing black and white stripes and 29 scudetto on the shirt for those red and white bathed in glory...
     
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  17. Quill

    Quill Bastard

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    The fact that it's a loan for Graham is very good business. (The only problem being he would be ineligible for 2 matches)

    If he scores a good few and keeps us up, sign him next summer.


    I would certainly not expect this to be the end of the striker hunt - I think Bruce will start looking abroad soon.
     
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  18. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    I think once / if Graham comes in then we've got our strikers in the building until someone leaves. I include Gedo in that.
     
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  19. Quill

    Quill Bastard

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    I think we'll sign a forward for a few million still. Who, however, is the question...
     
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  20. TygerTyger

    TygerTyger Well-Known Member

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    Just a question, but why has he (Danny Graham) flown in to England (all the press reports) when City have flown out to Portugal? Or has Brucie stayed behind?

    And what do we know about Jimmy Briand?
     
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