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He won't replace Cork, he'll replace Davis. If Ramirez improves then he will replace Cork. Schneiderlin, Ramirez, Cork and Davis together contributed just 12 goals - Wanyama got 9 by himself, albeit in a worse league.
 
The Manchester clubs are the example of the importance of always trying to improve. SAF always bought in the summer to get better even if he had just won the title.
City infamously bought no one to go straight into their 1st XL last summer and Mancini lost his job.
I think we need 3 or 4 1st team players to improve on last season to move forward.
Then it's up to the existing squad to fight for a place in the team.
 
I have a feeling that Wanyama and his agent are making the noise that he's available now in the hope bigger clubs come in. Same for Nainggollan. We're going to have to get used to a lot of players saying 'no' at the level we're pitching. Chicken and egg - once a few come in, the others will become more likely to say yes. We just need a few to take a gamble after watching the DVD....
 
Jose Fonte baby said:
He won't replace Cork, he'll replace Davis. If Ramirez improves then he will replace Cork. Schneiderlin, Ramirez, Cork and Davis together contributed just 12 goals - Wanyama got 9 by himself, albeit in a worse league.
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So we will play 3 defensive midfielders in our starting team?
 
We're gonna need good backups and subs if we want to finish top half though. I feel like I may have mentioned this before.
 
Beef_Dripping said:
So we will play 3 defensive midfielders in our starting team?
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We could do, I don't know that much about Wanyama but if Davis is classed and can play as an attacking midfielder then Wanyama should be able to play that role too - he's outscored Davis' goal tallies in the SPL. Ramirez should establish himself this season, anyway. 4-3-3 is also an option.
 
Jose Fonte baby said:
We could do, I don't know that much about Wanyama but if Davis is classed and can play as an attacking midfielder then Wanyama should be able to play that role too - he's outscored Davis' goal tallies in the SPL. Ramirez should establish himself this season, anyway. 4-3-3 is also an option.
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Or instead of playing a player out of position Cork/Morgan and Wanyama (if he signs)could rotate?
 
fatletiss said:
He's not here to replace Cork; he's here to be part of an ever improving squad. Have some of us forgotten our friend Mr Adkins' words saying it is about the squad, not the 11. We MUST improve the squad and that will include players competing with our existing heroes. Anyone not wanting this to happen has not the same ambition as the club now. We can't keep the same squad as its not good enough and if you stand still, you end up going backwards. Cork will be fine. He may end up playing less games; he may end up forming a frightening partnership with Victor and Morgan missing out... We just don't know. I am sure though that no-one is writing cork off yet. There is nothing wrong about airflow excitement about a potential new signing.
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I think you've managed to git the nail on the head - this is what I feel I have been trying to say for ages but I have't managed to put it quite so well.
 
Qwerty said:
We're gonna need good backups and subs if we want to finish top half though. I feel like I may have mentioned this before.
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Really? I thought we should keep just to having Morgan and Cork and no one else would be better?.....(not being sarcastic at you btw)
 
Mr. Nice said:
Should we all pretend he's literally the best player in the world? People get far too sentimental.
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I know you mean well, but that is quite patronising. There are some good points being made about how we think potential signings might fit in with the current squad and I think it's you that's missing the point.
 
Beef_Dripping said:
Really? I thought we should keep just to having Morgan and Cork and no one else would be better?.....(not being sarcastic at you btw)
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Doesn't matter if anyone would be better, they got us here so deserve to stay in the team forever. I can't wait for 2023, 41 year old Rickie leading us out because it's disloyal to drop him.
 
AllotedTime said:
I know you mean well, but that is quite patronising. There are some good points being made about how we think potential signings might fit in with the current squad and I think it's you that's missing the point.
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If people feel we shouldn't allow new players into the side - be it through sentimentality or mislaid importance on "how people will fit in the team" then how can we expect to improve? The argument of "people can't wait to drop Cork" hints at sentiment rather than tactics to me.
 
Mr. Nice said:
If people feel we shouldn't allow new players into the side - be it through sentimentality or mislaid importance on "how people will fit in the team" then how can we expect to improve? The argument of "people can't wait to drop Cork" hints at sentiment rather than tactics to me.
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Again, it's you that's missing the point, plus your post before this one is even more patronising than the first. It's nowhere as simple as "wanyama in, drop cork" and you're the only one that's pretending it is.
 
AllotedTime said:
Again, it's you that's missing the point, plus your post before this one is even more patronising than the first. It's nowhere as simple as "wanyama in, drop cork" and you're the only one that's pretending it is.
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By assuming that I see it that way, aren't you missing the point more than I am? I've never said anything of the sort. Also if you're trying to give a lesson on not being patronising then you're not doing a great job.
 
Mr. Nice said:
By assuming that I see it that way, aren't you missing the point more than I am? I've never said anything of the sort. Also if you're trying to give a lesson on not being patronising then you're not doing a great job.
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Don't be so belligerent - you're not immune from being disagreed with. Your post is the internet equivalent of "no I'm not you are".
 
AllotedTime said:
Don't be so belligerent - you're not immune from being disagreed with. Your post is the internet equivalent of "no I'm not you are".
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I'm really not sure what's happening here. I'm not immune from being disagreed with and I'm not sure why you'd think I claim that - however, you can't disagree with an argument I never made? And yes, I called you out on being patronising, your post is the equivalent of "lalala I can't hear you"

EDIT: Sent you a PM, let's not clog the thread further.
 
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