Summer 2013 Transfer Rumour Thread

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I would not have a problem selling Ramirez. He doesn't even warrant a place in the starting lineup next season on merit and we haven't even signed anyone yet.
 
I would not have a problem selling Ramirez. He doesn't even warrant a place in the starting lineup next season on merit and we haven't even signed anyone yet.

It's comments like this that make me wonder how much some of our 'fans' actually know about football.
 
I am right whether you like it or not. Our best line up is Rodriguez-Davis-Puncheon behind Lambert.
 
It's comments like this that make me wonder how much some of our 'fans' actually know about football.

We scored less goals per minute with Ramirez on the pitch than Lambert, Puncheon, Lallana, Davis and Rodriguez.
 
I am right whether you like it or not. Our best line up is Rodriguez-Davis-Puncheon behind Lambert.

Anyone starting a debate with "I am right" isn't worth a discussion. Ignorant. We may have been referring to the fact we think Ramirez is worth keeping.
 
We scored less goals per minute with Ramirez on the pitch than Lambert, Puncheon, Lallana, Davis and Rodriguez.

Sorry. I've realised that you were right. Sell him. Lets just keep 11 players.

Sometimes you let yourself down with your comments. This is one of those occasions.
 
It's comments like this that make me wonder how much some of our 'fans' actually know about football.

That's pretty harsh; it's a valid opinion and I think one could make a pretty good argument for it. You can't just try to invalidate people whose opinions you disagree with like that.

Every player has his price, and it's true that Ramirez often wasn't good enough to merit a starting place next season. If he was sold I assume we'd be in a position to bring in someone else of a similar pedigree, and perhaps someone who would fit the system better. None of us know what sorts of players are or could be available should that situation arise. Poch and Cortese might already have identified an even better AMC for all we know.

That's not to say that Ramirez couldn't be great for us next season, as he very well could, but he's probably not the only one who could. Also the rumoured price tags are pretty good.
 
That's pretty harsh; it's a valid opinion and I think one could make a pretty good argument for it. You can't just try to invalidate people whose opinions you disagree with like that.

Every player has his price, and it's true that Ramirez often wasn't good enough to merit a starting place next season. If he was sold I assume we'd be in a position to bring in someone else of a similar pedigree, and perhaps someone who would fit the system better. None of us know what sorts of players are or could be available should that situation arise. Poch and Cortese might already have identified an even better AMC for all we know.

That's not to say that Ramirez couldn't be great for us next season, as he very well could, but he's probably not the only one who could. Also the rumoured price tags are pretty good.

Joe, he said sell him because he doesn't merit a place; that's crap (selling him). If that's the way it is we should only have 11 players. He has delivered an ignorant post and followed it up with "I'm right". People like this piss me off and need to show some intelligent discussion.
 
Joe, he said sell him because he doesn't merit a place; that's crap. If that's the way it is we should only have 11 players. He has delivered an ignorant post and followed it up with "I'm right". People like this piss me off and need to show some intelligent discussion.

Start of the season I said Ramirez will have an average season and loads of posters, including some replying to me or disliking my post, said I know nothing about football. The post above me posting I'm right said 'It's comments like this that make me wonder how much some of our 'fans' actually know about football'. You can't have it both ways. Hilarious.
 
At the start of the season I said Ramirez had been average and wouldn't come good. He didn't. I'm right that he doesn't deserve to be in the team on merit. How anyone could say otherwise is laughable.

If he's competing with Lallana, he should be picked.

Adam has been poor. Sell Adam Lallana instead.
 
Joe, he said sell him because he doesn't merit a place; that's crap. If that's the way it is we should only have 11 players. He has delivered an ignorant post and followed it up with "I'm right". People like this piss me off and need to show some intelligent discussion.

Technically, he didn't say we should sell him because he doesn't merit a place; he's just saying he wouldn't have a problem if he went because he hasn't yet merited a starting place. No one is stupid enough to suggest that all but the best 11 should be sold, but if a good offer comes in for a squad player then selling could be the right move. Gaining around £20m and not losing any of your key players could be seen as a pretty good move, especially if that money helps you bring in another key player.

His comments after that were pretty stupid though, yes.
 
Technically, he didn't say we should sell him because he doesn't merit a place; he's just saying he wouldn't have a problem if he went because he hasn't yet merited a starting place. No one is stupid enough to suggest that all but the best 11 should be sold, but if a good offer comes in for a squad player then selling could be the right move. Gaining around £20m and not losing any of your key players could be seen as a pretty good move, especially if that money helps you bring in another key player.

His comments after that were pretty stupid though, yes.

Semantics Joe. It was the inference in that post.
 
Yeah I really don't think Ramirez was worse than Lallana, there's certainly not a clear indisputable difference.
 
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