Beefy's Corner - The Off-Topic Chat Thread

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Schad said:
That's the point, though. Baseball players earn a tonne on average, but very little when they first enter the league; generally, a pre-arbitration player makes $500,000, no matter how good they are. Mike Trout very nearly won the MVP as a rookie, and he's making (IIRC) $520,000 this year.

Basically, there are three tiers: pre-arb, which lasts for the first three seasons of a player's career (unless they hit Super Two status, which is based on service time and results in salary arbitration for their third season), three years of arbitration, and then free agency. So there are six years there where the player is tied to their original team, and the salary they earned is significantly below what they would make on the open market, though arbitration figures are starting to escalate to sums closer to free agent value. Those are the cost-controlled years that I mentioned, and they're a huge deal; a league-average player might cost you $7-10m a year in free agency, so if you have two kids making $1m combined filling spots and producing league-average results, you then have a huge pile of surplus value that allows money to be allocated elsewhere.
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Ah yes. Didn't read your post properly. But these young players know full well if they become a top player they will earn a massive contract through free agency.
 
What a long boring day, one of the agents was a cheesy tangoed ****.
 
Gay Bacon Strips said:
Is there a salary cap in MLB?
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No. There is a relatively-toothless luxury tax (set at a very high level), however, beyond which teams have to contribute to the revenue sharing pool. The Yankees have regularly had to pay $20m+ a year in tax because of their massive payroll.

I hate the idea of a salary cap in the PL, but I'd be pretty open to a luxury tax.
 
tomw19 said:
Well the highest paid player in baseball is Alex Rodriguez who is in the middle of a 10 year $275m contract.
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Mayweather will top that if he fights 6 fights in 2 years. He has a contract worth around $300m if he completes the fights.
 
Here's a totally random question.

I wonder if anyone else has ever gone along the M40 / M42 to watch Saints play away. Everytime I've gone along the M40 and stopped off art Warwick Services I am always intrigued by the sight of the monument on the right hand side of the carriageway (heading North) within about 10-15 mins of the stop. I've tried finding out what this monument ( a cloumn with an urn on top) is for but can't see it on the Bing map / birds eye view and it hasn't materialised whenever I try to Google it.

Does anyone know what it commemorates ? I would be intrested to find out as I've been baffled by this a years!!

Thanks

Ian
 
Schad said:
No. There is a relatively-toothless luxury tax (set at a very high level), however, beyond which teams have to contribute to the revenue sharing pool. The Yankees have regularly had to pay $20m+ a year in tax because of their massive payroll.

I hate the idea of a salary cap in the PL, but I'd be pretty open to a luxury tax.
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Ah I see. The NFL has something like a $130m a year salary cap I think.
 
Gay Bacon Strips said:
Ah I see. The NFL has something like a $130m a year salary cap I think.
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And the NFL version is a hard cap; you can't exceed it. The NHL has similar, while the NBA has a hybrid...there's a soft cap that can be exceeded under certain circumstances (and most teams in the league are over it at any given point), followed by a punitive luxury tax.
 
Manure and their finances under discussion again :- Despite releasing impressive financial figures on Thursday, which showed year-on-year turnover for the first nine months of the financial year has risen 13.1% to £278.1m, despite not including the new £120m, eight-year sponsorship deal with AON, Woodward said the club had no intention of making dramatic changes. United's broadcast and matchday sectors have increased 21.7% and 34% on the corresponding three months in 2012, whilst gross debt now stands at £367.6m, still a vast sum but a decrease of 15.9% since 30 June last year.
 
Me and dan have been hunted down by Banana on twitter now.

He's telling us how UKIPnare the way forward as the best, most liberal and forward thinking party out there.
 
- Doing The Lambert Walk said:
Me and dan have been hunted down by Banana on twitter now.

He's telling us how UKIPnare the way forward as the best, most liberal and forward thinking party out there.
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They call themselves libertarians, which is suppose is a very twisted form of liberalism, but the only thing they talk about is immigration so it's kind of hard to tell. Do they support drug legalisation, scrapping welfare, scrapping the NHS, etc? Hard to tell...
 
Joe Steinberg said:
They call themselves libertarians, which is suppose is a very twisted form of liberalism, but the only thing they talk about is immigration so it's kind of hard to tell. Do they support drug legalisation, scrapping welfare, scrapping the NHS, etc? Hard to tell...
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They are just like every other party full of crap.
 
DLTW I've just read that Twitter argument. All I can say is I hope for his sake that he grows out of it. If he's truly interested in politics and willing to consider every viewpoint, then he will. Doesn't matter much to us either way thankfully, as he's not living here or voting here.
 
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