The Pulis Out/In Debate:

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Potts,

If relegation is the price to be rid of him, then that is the price we must pay, don't like the idea but detest the thought of him still being here pissing in the water even less.
 
jowlermonkey said:
Potts,

If relegation is the price to be rid of him, then that is the price we must pay, don't like the idea but detest the thought of him still being here pissing in the water even less.
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jowler this is why i leave these forums no way would any stoke fan want stoke city to go down to get rid of a manager
 
Again, reliant on the woes if others! As you say, another good result for Stoke.
 
Rotter,

Your choice and your opinion, as I said i don't like the idea and i don't want it to happen but if that is what is needed to get rid of Pulis.......
 
Rotter
The LAST thing I want to happen is for Stoke to go down mate believe me! BUT we stay up fantastic and PULIS will STAY. Then what happens?
Can we employ the K.G.B. with a plan because right now, I don't see Mr C giving Mr P the heave Ho! So that means **** footie less fans, less revenue and slowly but surely it will happen, if not this season it will mate IF he stays in charge.
 
The issue for me is that we do stay in the Premier League this season. To wish relegation on the team in the hope TP will leave is ridiculous IMO. To get into the Prem is not easy and to expect Stoke to bounce right back would be wishful thinking. I know performances in 2013 have been poor and the playing style and tactics employed by Pulis have been awful for the last couple f seasons but the PL is the place to be and if we were to drop we may not return for a long time. And who is to say that if we were relegated that Pulis would leave, equally if we survive this season who is to say that Pulis would stay?

Our fate is still in our hands and home wins against Villa and Norwich will see us safe. The managerial issue should be tackled at the end of the season IMO.
 
I think in all honesty non of us wish or want relegation, it is purely the fact that alot of loyal fans have had their enjoyment beaten out of them - it is a reaction and certain posters to insinuate that some are not real fans are taking the comments out of context.
 
Smithers said:
I think in all honesty non of us wish or want relegation, it is purely the fact that alot of loyal fans have had their enjoyment beaten out of them - it is a reaction and certain posters to insinuate that some are not real fans are taking the comments out of context.
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If the cap fits ..........wear it
 
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/story-18595041-detail/story.html#axzz2PNXIHER2

LINDSAY Parsons and Tony Pulis have been mates for more than 40 years, working together at a host of clubs at all levels, but former Cheltenham Town boss Parsons says they rarely agree on anything football-related.
The former Robins boss now travels far and wide in his capacity as chief scout for Premier League Stoke City, where Pulis has been manager since 2006.

Parsons took over from Ally Robertson as Cheltenham manager in 1992 after a spell in charge of the youth team.
He was unable to stave off relegation from the Conference, but he quickly rebuilt the squad with a much younger group of players, some of whom went on to become Robins legends.

His squad finished second in the Southern League for three years in succession, agonisingly missing out to Dover Athletic, Farnborough Town and Hednesford Town as they bid to climb back to the top level of non-League football.
He also took the Robins to the second round of the FA Cup in 1992/93, when they were beaten by Pulis' Bournemouth in a replay at Dean Court.
He left to join his old mate at Gillingham in the summer of 1995 and he has followed Pulis around, working with him at Bristol City, Portsmouth, Stoke and Plymouth Argyle before the pair returned for a second spell at Stoke.
Bristol-based Parsons, who made more than 350 appearances for Bristol Rovers, looks back with some regret over his decision to leave Cheltenham to become Parsons' number two.
"I do regret leaving Cheltenham in some ways because I miss having the final say and I miss a lot of things about non-League football," Parsons said. "I remember our first training session at Gillingham and I told Tony the standard was far lower than what I had been used to at Cheltenham in the Southern League!
"But we turned it around and won promotion to what is now League One and then we were 2-0 up in the play-off final against Manchester City at Wembley, but we lost on penalties."
Pulis took Parsons with him to Bristol City in 1999, but their Rovers connections meant they were never really accepted.
"The crowd were on our backs from the start and it seems they don't forget there because they were very hard to please," Parsons said.
Six months later, they switched to Portsmouth, spending ten months at Fratton Park before Pulis succeeded Steve Cotterill as Stoke boss in 2002.
"I remember one of the first names I gave to Tony at Stoke was a lightning quick, 6ft 4in striker called (Emmanuel) Adebayor, but we were in the Championship at the time and we were told the fee of £3million was too much," Parsons said.
"There was tension with the Icelandic owners and Tony was sacked, but we went to Plymouth and enjoyed it there.
"We then went back to Stoke when Peter Coates took over as chairman."
Pulis has since guided the Potters into the Premier League, where they are currently 13th in their fifth consecutive season in the top flight.
They also reached the FA Cup final in 2011, but Parsons does not see eye to eye with Pulis' direct style of play.
"We have loads of disagreements because I don't like the way they play and I will never change on that," Parsons said.
"I don't think the Premier League is as good as it's made out to be and of course there are a lot of talented players in there, but there are also a lot of average ones. I think the game has been ruined by agents."
Parsons was on a scouting mission in Macedonia to watch them play Denmark in February and he was also sent to take in Sweden against the Republic of Ireland in Stockholm last month.
"I have been told that players I've recommended have been too small for Stoke, but I don't go along with that," Parsons said. "Look at Lionel Messi, he is different class and is he too small?
"I have recommended players like (Cheick) Tiote, (Hatem) Ben Arfa and (Demba) Ba, but they have not been signed by Stoke and they've done well for other clubs."
Now 67, Parsons looks back on his time at Cheltenham with fondness.
"We had Archie Howells, who I knew from Bristol Rovers and he was always going to be a Football League player," Parsons said.
"I brought in two young lads from the Bournemouth area, Christer Warren and Simon Cooper, and we sold Warren to Southampton for about £45,000.
"I put together a young side and we had Chris Banks at the back, who could have played in any position.
"At that level it's all about opinions and some players get lucky and a club higher up will take a chance on them, but others don't.
"I am a bit disillusioned with the game at the top as I think some of the passion has gone and players kissing badges annoys me because most of the time they'd leave for a bit more money somewhere else.
"Finishing second three years in a row at Cheltenham did hurt me, but I miss those days because football has been overcomplicated now and really it's a simple game."
 
Really good read that mate, thanks. Its difficult to understand whether TP's style has been driven by funds in the past and maybe even today, but it does confirm some of the fans suspicions in relations to the players he prefers.
 
I'm suprised he didn't go for Tiote, as it said in the article, he's not a giant, but he's still a bit of a beast, and he can pass. Same height as Whelan. . .
 
I suppose we will never know the money situation thats sits behind every potential deal.
 
I know alot of us want TP gone (and in his defence I dont think that will ever change), but we dont want relegation - we are just pissed off and we therefore rant. Lets all raise a class and clink to thte thought of staying up and TP gracefully stepping aside!
 
Trouble is Smithers, Pulis don't do gracefully.

PS - is that Vettel's toe or thumb????
 
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