Billy D:4415430 said:That's the thing though Cest, MON isn't a class act, he's ****ing clueless without Robertson who has obviously carried the bloke for years.
mon...Still got a few to do. cardiff new ground, ipswich, watford. done all the other top 2 division grounds. dagenham, barnet, whickham, crewe, fleetwood,cheltenham, chesterfield, the new rotherham. I've done over 100 english league grounds counting ones that are now non league, ie luton, workington, barrow.ext. Also counting 2 grounds one club ie safc, derby, milwall ext. Also done a few in scotland & ireland. pride of place sporting lisbon & budapest in 1973.
I don't agree with that Billy. Mon is a class act imo but as a club, we are a managers and players graveyard.
I despair at where we go now as Mon represented the real deal to me. Another management change is just ignoring the fact we keep employing managers that all end in utter failure very quickly.
We need one to lay some foundations and then build a far better project than just relegation candidates year after year.
I want this to be Mon but I fear too many have now made up their mind he has to go and I just don't have the desire to see him abused and booed next season.
Therefore I'm semi retiring from the club. Time to devote more time to other things after 39 seasons. I'll never stop loving the club or stop completely from going but to be honest I'm tired of the constant failures and having to find excuses I no longer believe in myself to defend the indefensible.
Thing is kidda its not the survival that I'm waiting for.
I can just see the in-fighting, turmoil and ****e happening again next year and I'm sick of it now.
I wanted so much more than this under Martin and if he can't deliver then maybe its time for me to evaluate my part in the whole affair
My daughter is 8 now and I'd sooner spend that time with her than miserable as **** at the match every week.

The prroblem is a simple one, a manager who has made bad buys, played boring negative tactics, poor selection and substitutions.
Not Shorts fault or the clubs fault, all down to a past his sell by date manager.
Safc83:4417545 said:Thing is kidda its not the survival that I'm waiting for.
I can just see the in-fighting, turmoil and ****e happening again next year and I'm sick of it now.
I wanted so much more than this under Martin and if he can't deliver then maybe its time for me to evaluate my part in the whole affair
My daughter is 8 now and I'd sooner spend that time with her than miserable as **** at the match every week.
My daughter is the same age and me and the mother split up when she was 2. I work all week, so have the bairn all weekend which made me give my season ticket up 6 years ago. You could say its been a blessing in disguise.
Spend time with your little girl mate, you owe the club nowt and in return they probably owe you a letter of apology. Every weekend you will feel fulfilled and can start taking her to all the local attractions and slowly but surely, the defeats hurt less as well.
Good luck in whichever route you take![]()
Thing is kidda its not the survival that I'm waiting for.
I can just see the in-fighting, turmoil and ****e happening again next year and I'm sick of it now.
I wanted so much more than this under Martin and if he can't deliver then maybe its time for me to evaluate my part in the whole affair
My daughter is 8 now and I'd sooner spend that time with her than miserable as **** at the match every week.
make that 55 yearsI split up with my ex when my daughter was 2 as well mate and tbh, I go everywhere with her now. Grandparents have her for 3 or 4 hours when I'm at the match.
She is going with me Sunday on the school tickets and that's what I will do next year.
I owe SAFC nowt though that's true. 39 years at home and a good 15 years travelling the country from 17 to 32.
I've been patient. I've given everything.
I've got **** all left to give and yet on Saturday, I watched the same ****e I have been watching for nearly all those 39 years.
We haven't even got one percent better in 39 years. It's a lost cause and maybe I just woke up to it
Thing is kidda its not the survival that I'm waiting for.
I can just see the in-fighting, turmoil and ****e happening again next year and I'm sick of it now.
I wanted so much more than this under Martin and if he can't deliver then maybe its time for me to evaluate my part in the whole affair
My daughter is 8 now and I'd sooner spend that time with her than miserable as **** at the match every week.
make that 55 years
Totally understand mate. If she is naughty, you can take her to a game as punishment. You will have the best behaved little girl ever. These are probably the best years coming up and you are doing the right thing. SAFC will improve though. Things will get better!
its tough been a sunderland supporter but surely you new that before you joined 55years for me and I will still go on although I don't visit the stadium as much as I did there is only one sunderland and we will follow them till the endI've done 15 seasons now on a ST and this is the last, didnt bother going to Fulham, in two minds about Norwich and gave my ticket to a mate who's a man utd fan for their game, doubt I'll go back again this season.
Gettin bored of over-paid footballers in the sky generation, seriously thinking about going back to watching Blyth in the Evo-stick premier....
its tough been a sunderland supporter but surely you new that before you joined 55years for me and I will still go on although I don't visit the stadium as much as I did there is only one sunderland and we will follow them till the end