Liability Luiz

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CPofL KTBFFH

CPofL KTBFFH

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What a shocking performance today. The guy is a liability at CB and he's actually worse in midfield. (And I don't mean for his shoulder barge) Completely inept. IF Barca or anyone is foolish enough to want him we should snatch the money and run.

And Ba is turning in to Torres Mk 2. Getting worse by the game.
 
dunno what you've been watching over the past couple of months then? He's been class in midfield. I do agree though, he is a liability at times and I would happily sell if we could make a profit on what we paid.

As for Ba, what has he done that's so bad? He's not being given a consistent run in the first XI yet due to an inept donkey having cemented the number 9 role despite being utter garbage.
 
Drogs said:
dunno what you've been watching over the past couple of months then? He's been class in midfield. I do agree though, he is a liability at times and I would happily sell if we could make a profit on what we paid.

As for Ba, what has he done that's so bad? He's not being given a consistent run in the first XI yet due to an inept donkey having cemented the number 9 role despite being utter garbage.
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And you had the nerve to ask me what I'd been watching. Which game was he class in exactly? Torres is ****e but has been creating for others at least. Give me Ba's input of late.
 
I also think Luiz is class, true he can make bad calls but he will only grow better with us and has had quite a decent year so far. I think the future is rosy and when we get rid of the twat manager we can all look forward to a great season ahead.
 
Drogs said:
dunno what you've been watching over the past couple of months then? He's been class in midfield. I do agree though, he is a liability at times and I would happily sell if we could make a profit on what we paid.

As for Ba, what has he done that's so bad? He's not being given a consistent run in the first XI yet due to an inept donkey having cemented the number 9 role despite being utter garbage.
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Drogs, I have to inform you that you are well out of order with this comment. I have worked with Donkeys for some time now and have not encountered the level of ineptitude in Chelsea's number 9 in any one of them, so please amend your post as I will be taking advice from the RSPCA's legal department.
 
CPofL KTBFFH said:
And you had the nerve to ask me what I'd been watching. Which game was he class in exactly? Torres is ****e but has been creating for others at least. Give me Ba's input of late.
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first off, climb off your high horse, our opinions are of equal validity so don't treat me like some sort of ****. Secondly, Luiz has been good in general, far better than in defence so God knows what you're talking about when you say he's actually been worse! I agree he was poo today, bit headless, but overall he's been good for a position that's not even his. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather Mikel played there than him but we've all seen how **** the Mikel/Lamps combo was under RDM, I just think you're being a tad harsh.

You appear to have contradicted yourself too, you say Ba is torres v2 but then go on to say you think Torres has been better! Ba is twice the player of Torres, movement is far better and he can actually hold up the ball unlike eeyore. Like I said, he's not been given a consistent run in the side and FSW has pretty obviously been brought in as one last stab to get Torres firing and is playing him for some benign reason.
 
King Ossie64 said:
I also think Luiz is class, true he can make bad calls but he will only grow better with us and has had quite a decent year so far. I think the future is rosy and when we get rid of the twat manager we can all look forward to a great season ahead.
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He's 25,soon 26,supposed to be in his prime. He's not a kid with time to learn. Again,which performances do you regard as 'class' this season?
 
Okeydokey said:
Drogs, I have to inform you that you are well out of order with this comment. I have worked with Donkeys for some time now and have not encountered the level of ineptitude in Chelsea's number 9 in any one of them, so please amend your post as I will be taking advice from the RSPCA's legal department.
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<laugh>.<ok>

careful you'll upset Ron's judgement calls <whistle>
 
Drogs said:
first off, climb off your high horse, our opinions are of equal validity so don't treat me like some sort of ****. Secondly, Luiz has been good in general, far better than in defence so God knows what you're talking about when you say he's actually been worse! I agree he was poo today, bit headless, but overall he's been good for a position that's not even his. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather Mikel played there than him but we've all seen how **** the Mikel/Lamps combo was under RDM, I just think you're being a tad harsh.

You appear to have contradicted yourself too, you say Ba is torres v2 but then go on to say you think Torres has been better! Ba is twice the player of Torres, movement is far better and he can actually hold up the ball unlike eeyore. Like I said, he's not been given a consistent run in the side and FSW has pretty obviously been brought in as one last stab to get Torres firing and is playing him for some benign reason.
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Which games do you consider he played well in?
Never said he was better but assists do help don't they?
 
CPofL KTBFFH said:
He's 25,soon 26,supposed to be in his prime. He's not a kid with time to learn. Again,which performances do you regard as 'class' this season?
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Centre backs mature around 27 so he is prime for a great few years. Like Ramires, everybody slagged him off for the first 6-9 months, Luiz is cab able of playing exquisite through balls that most centre backs can only dream of.
 
CPofL KTBFFH said:
Which games do you consider he played well in?
Never said he was better but assists do help don't they?
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all pre injury.
course they do, but I want my strikers to score goals and Ba is certainly far better at that than Torres.
 
CPofL KTBFFH said:
Certainly hasn't been better of late. What did he do today?
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what do you mean 'of late'? It was his first game since the beginning of the month and you wouldn't exactly be playing to the best of your ability with a great big mask on your boat would you <laugh>. He's started 6/10 games, the other four he was brought on with little time to make impact and he's bagged three goals. Nowhere near as bad as you're making out!
 
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