Corruption

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deedub93 said:
Are you saying Clattenberg ( Pedro Mendes) had money on a nil nil draw at old traffold a few years back?
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I would never make that libelous suggestion, nor would I make one that indicated that he may have had 2-0 for the Nani handball game.
 
He clearly had bets on for both. If he says he didn't its libelous.

He even looks like Alex Ferguson's son. Has this been investigated?
 
I don't know whether to point the finger and say, "This is why football needs to have zero tolerance of gambling associations," or think, the difference isn't that American sports are fixed less often, it's that the fixing comes out a lot less often...

I don't know what team or teams it involved, or what bet or bets it involved. But in a world where millions are wagered on the Super Bowl coin flip (proving gamblers are idiots), anything could have been involved. The dodgiest game I've seen recently was the first Lazio Spurs game this year, but of course that wasn't a CL match. I have no idea if Chelsea was involved, but the fact that the team is owned by Abramovich isn't, to put it delicately, exactly a point in their favor.

I once amused myself by putting the pieces together to suggest one NFL game was almost certainly fixed. Vegas bookies had tens of millions on the Steeler's opponents covering. Total penalty yardage was something like 120 yards (against the Steelers) to five yards (against their opponents.) On the last play of the game, a bizarre interception return for a touchdown, the officials made a blatantly wrong interpretation of the rules to deny what would have been the covering points.
 
How do fix a CL game when there are so many people involved in determining the outcome of the game- players, managers, coaches, officials etc and every second of every game can be scrutinised through countless cameras from many different angles?

I doubt very much that any English team could be involved. One thing which characterises our game is the wholehearted commitment of the players. We've seen titles lost because contenders couldn't beat a team playing for little more than pride on the last day of the season!
 
I agree with LDL that match fixing has got to be incredibly difficult. Referees and Goalkeepers are the only people who have enough influence over the game, and even then there is no certainty that they will be able to orchestrate a favourable outcome for the fixer.
 
A couple of mistimed tackles, the odd lost run and a drab performance from one or two players wouldn't be hard to pull off, though.
You'd only have to get a few people in on it. The keeper, a centre-half, one midfielder and a striker, perhaps? Reduce the effectiveness of the spine and the whole performance would collapse.
 
Crouch against Real Madrid sent off after 10 minutes to destroy any chance of us getting to the semi finals in our first outing in the CL and rocking the apple cart?
 
The only way to minimise corruption is bring in TV replays for everything. Then sack all the current referees as they could have 'skeletons in the cupboard' and be blackmailable.

Then, before each match, take the all referees to a 'holding centre' and not let anyone know which match each ref will be officiating at. Then fly them to their respective grounds about 1 hour before kick off after confiscating their mobiles. Also make the referees work with different linesmen each week.

Then pay them more than £75k a year so they have too much to lose. About £0.5 M a year is about right.
 
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