Sandro The Interceptor

[NSIS]

I owned Jensens back in the seventies. Lovely looking cars, nice inside too. However, technically advanced they were not. Basically it was a massive lump of Detroit iron, a 7.2 litre Chrysler V8 in this case, married with a Chrysler Torqueflite auto transmission. Petrol consumption, driving around London, was nearer 8 mpg. Not too bad in the dry. But if you didn't treat it with enormous respect in the wet, it would very quickly introduce you to the nearest hedgerow or brick wall.

 

[totsfan]

I think Sandro and Vertonghen are totally brilliant in their different roles....and our French goalie is beginning to remind me of Bill Brown.Both goalies slight in build but utterley fearless and reliable.
I'm afraid the jury's out regarding Dempsey at the moment but I'm beginning to enjoy his ex Fulham team mate!

last bit of that is to much infomation

 

[musiceyz]

last bit of that is to much infomation

Yeah what you do with Damien Duff is between you and Duffy

 

[notsosmartspur]

I owned Jensens back in the seventies. Lovely looking cars, nice inside too. However, technically advanced they were not. Basically it was a massive lump of Detroit iron, a 7.2 litre Chrysler V8 in this case, married with a Chrysler Torqueflite auto transmission. Petrol consumption, driving around London, was nearer 8 mpg. Not too bad in the dry. But if you didn't treat it with enormous respect in the wet, it would very quickly introduce you to the nearest hedgerow or brick wall.

8mpg! ...perhaps my mates dad had the more economical 6 litre version!

 

[NSIS]

8mpg! ...perhaps my mates dad had the more economical 6 litre version!

That was what they call urban driving nowadays. On a run, you could maybe get a massive 15-17 mpg!..Yeah, the original ones were the Chrysler 383cu or 6.3litre. I had one of those - with no power steering!..I think it was around 1973 they upped the engine to the 454 cu.

 

[musiceyz]

You car freaks scare me

 

[littleDinosaurLuke]

You should have been able to handle one, NSIS. Although they had many faults, they did have 4wd, ABS and traction control, all of which were rare at the time.

 

[NSIS]

You should have been able to handle one, NSIS. Although they had many faults, they did have 4wd, ABS and traction control, all of which were rare at the time.

You're thinking, or have been reading, about the Jensen FF. That was a very rare model which indeed had 4 wheel drive and the Dunlop Maxaret anti-lock braking system. The Intercepters that I had we're straight rear wheel drive with a massive amount of torque going through those back wheels. Essentially, it was a tarted up muscle car. Slightly better behaved, handling wise, that's all.

Getting back on thread, I think Sandro is a fantastic player. He's learning all the time and will be one of the best box to box midfielders anywhere, if he continues to improve at this rate.

 

[redwhiteandermblue]

What did we do before these meaningless stats were compiled?

It's surely logical to conclude that a team which dominates possession wouldn't have many players high up the interception table, isn't it?

And teams chasing the game will have many attempts at goal, even if most of them are hopeful attempts from 35 yards which are more likely to endanger the corner flags than the goal?

And if you tap the ball sideways, you can achieve a fantastic pass completion rate?

Not to mention a high doubles percentage if you play Phil Taylor and hit the double first time in the only leg you get any chance to win

Some stats are misleading, some aren't. Overall, I'd say the pass completion rate may be the least valuable of football stats. As you say, it will reward the least ambitious passers.

But the interception stat at a glance looks valuable. Sandro has been a tremendous DM, and has controlled the midfield with Dembele. Spurs may have more interceptions to some degree because they shoot more, but I don't think this seriously skews the numbers. You'd have to see how Busquets, Xavi et. al do at Barcelona to see if a team which retains possession well has fewer interceptions.

 

[BajanSpur]

I owned Jensens back in the seventies. Lovely looking cars, nice inside too. However, technically advanced they were not. Basically it was a massive lump of Detroit iron, a 7.2 litre Chrysler V8 in this case, married with a Chrysler Torqueflite auto transmission. Petrol consumption, driving around London, was nearer 8 mpg. Not too bad in the dry. But if you didn't treat it with enormous respect in the wet, it would very quickly introduce you to the nearest hedgerow or brick wall.

Can I refer you to my reply on this thread (#15) and can I ask you what colour your Jensen was ?.

I owned a Jaguar XJS years ago., it was only a 5.3 ltr, V12, but it stretched shirt buttons when accelerating through the auto gearbox. Petrol consumption was about -12.5 when driven sensibly.,.... .

 

[redwhiteandermblue]

That was what they call urban driving nowadays. On a run, you could maybe get a massive 15-17 mpg!..Yeah, the original ones were the Chrysler 383cu or 6.3litre. I had one of those - with no power steering!..I think it was around 1973 they upped the engine to the 454 cu.

I had a Gutless with that 454. It could pass anything on the road but a gas station.

 

[littleDinosaurLuke]

Some stats are misleading, some aren't. Overall, I'd say the pass completion rate may be the least valuable of football stats. As you say, it will reward the least ambitious passers.

But the interception stat at a glance looks valuable. Sandro has been a tremendous DM, and has controlled the midfield with Dembele. Spurs may have more interceptions to some degree because they shoot more, but I don't think this seriously skews the numbers. You'd have to see how Busquets, Xavi et. al do at Barcelona to see if a team which retains possession well has fewer interceptions.

I can see the value of Sandro as a player- and one who is improving and adapting to the English game, but I don't need these stats to form a view about his worth.

 

[No Kane No Gain]

For anyone interested in the stat, last season the top interceptor was Petrov with 3.6 pg, Parker was 3rd in with 3.1 pg

Our defensive mids are pretty good at this intercepting lark,

 

[vimhawk]

That was what they call urban driving nowadays. On a run, you could maybe get a massive 15-17 mpg!..Yeah, the original ones were the Chrysler 383cu or 6.3litre. I had one of those - with no power steering!..I think it was around 1973 they upped the engine to the 454 cu.

My mate still has one. It sits on his driveway and never goes anywhere (it can't) but nevertheless it's there!

These are not cars you own for effective petrol consumption, but to feel good in your car (which I don't in my wife's Peugeot 207).

 

[redwhiteandermblue]

I can see the value of Sandro as a player- and one who is improving and adapting to the English game, but I don't need these stats to form a view about his worth.

Americans tend to be stat freaks because stats work well in baseball, which is a series of one to one battles. There's also a "just the facts" prejudice in American culture which tends to make people grasp for things that seem solid. I'd say most British don't like stats because

1. Americans do
2. They're just too nerdly. Learn to watch a game, don't try to reduce it to numbers.
3. They don't, in general, apply very well to games like football or the NFL, where most stats measure a combination of individual and team, making it debatable what, if any, useful information they contain.