I'm sure I read that he's been confirmed as out for the rest of the season, that being so do we need to sign someone else. I realise that we've done excellent without him but when he played in those early games he did very well and I was hoping to see a partnership with him and Mason start to develop. What do we think, obviously it won't be cheap to sign a comparable player, will the owners go all out now we're top at the new year or settle for what we have and hope history prevails.
Nicky Maynard
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Now Forest have employed an iconic manager and unleashed the purse strings we won't have a look in on any of the international standard players, a quiet January windo for all except the Forest.... FACT!
Here we go again, we must replace this 20 goal a season striker.
Bull****!
In the last 24 games he played 1 and 2 part games and scored feck all.
The only full game he played was against the wursles, and what was his contibution to that defeat?
By all means let's discuss the need for a new striker to take the pressure off others, but please please please don't keep talking about Maynard as the missing Messiah. It is all mere supposition and wishful thinking. He actually cost the club £2.75 million and did absolutely nothing, and we're still paying his wages.
Bull****!
In the last 24 games he played 1 and 2 part games and scored feck all.
The only full game he played was against the wursles, and what was his contibution to that defeat?
By all means let's discuss the need for a new striker to take the pressure off others, but please please please don't keep talking about Maynard as the missing Messiah. It is all mere supposition and wishful thinking. He actually cost the club £2.75 million and did absolutely nothing, and we're still paying his wages.
Sorry Xsnags, personally I haven't seen to many threads about Nicky but there you go, re-reading my post I find no mention of a Messiah only that I was hoping to see a partnership develop. I'm also fully aware of how many games and how much he cost, so at the risk of offending you, if you don't like the thread don't ****ing post in it, simples
Its supposed to be a free speach board isn't it? Are you suggesting I should only post if I agree with you? That what you appear to be suggesting.
As I say, let us discuss getting a new striker but FFS why does everyone keep going on about having to replace Maynard????
He never did anything, so what is to replace?
Finally, if you don't like people saying things against your threads then don't post threads.
As I say, let us discuss getting a new striker but FFS why does everyone keep going on about having to replace Maynard????
He never did anything, so what is to replace?
Finally, if you don't like people saying things against your threads then don't post threads.
Lappin is going back, so we still need a left back.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footba...-spell-set-to-end-in-new-year-91466-32508528/
I wonder how much that half a game cost us?
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footba...-spell-set-to-end-in-new-year-91466-32508528/
I wonder how much that half a game cost us?
I only put thread up as I'd heard that it was confirmed we wouldn't be seeing him again this season, but there you go maybe in future I'll keep my fingers off the keyboard and leave them in my pockets to scratch my balls.
Happy New Year
Snaggs - easy pal. 
You're right about us discussing a replacement for Maynard on here before, but it's still an important aspect to most of us, and good fun to discuss anyway.
Maynard (or any other player of his type) provides another option up front. He has the talent (knack?) to convert goal scoring opportunities that other players will spurn.
You cannot possibly extrapolate that because he didn't score in the 2 and a half games he played at the start of the season, that he wouldn't have scored for the remainder - now frankly that's being ridiculous.
Also you need to get your facts right. He didn't play at all against the Wurzels in that debacle - he hadn't even joined us when we played them in August. He was Malky's very last signing from West Ham on the transfer deadline.
That brings us to another point. If Malky bought him as his last signing of the summer, he obviously thought we needed him or a player of his type - £2.75M is a lot of money to spend on a whim. If that was Malky's belief then, nothing has changed and we need a replacement to provide the options his injury has deprived the club.
You're right about us discussing a replacement for Maynard on here before, but it's still an important aspect to most of us, and good fun to discuss anyway.
Maynard (or any other player of his type) provides another option up front. He has the talent (knack?) to convert goal scoring opportunities that other players will spurn.
You cannot possibly extrapolate that because he didn't score in the 2 and a half games he played at the start of the season, that he wouldn't have scored for the remainder - now frankly that's being ridiculous.
Also you need to get your facts right. He didn't play at all against the Wurzels in that debacle - he hadn't even joined us when we played them in August. He was Malky's very last signing from West Ham on the transfer deadline.
That brings us to another point. If Malky bought him as his last signing of the summer, he obviously thought we needed him or a player of his type - £2.75M is a lot of money to spend on a whim. If that was Malky's belief then, nothing has changed and we need a replacement to provide the options his injury has deprived the club.
Your right.
Maynards performance against the Wurzels was completely ineffective and contributed to the defeat.
Being a West Ham player at the time was probably the reason why.
Maynard would have had us another 6-10 points I reckon.
A top class striker to replace Helgusson and a stay fit Bellamy = the title.
I never said we didn't need a striker, all that gets to me is talking about this guy as if now he has gone we won't get promoted. He was never here in effect.
I concede he didn't play in the Bristol game, it was the one after it against Wolves, where he was subbed, then leeeds where he was subbed then Millwall where he was stretchered off. That aint the end of the transfer window.
I accept we need another goal scorer and someone who can replace HH but I do not understand why everyone talks about this guy as if he actually did something. Let's just say we need a replacement or support for HH and leave it at that.
Let me ask 3 questions.
Q1: As people say we need a 20 goal a season striker how much would they be prepared to see City pay for one in January>
Q2: As by the time we get one we will have played 26 games would they be hasppy if this new striker scored 9 goals between now and May? That's about right at a strike rate of over 2 games a goal?
Q£: If we do buy and he does score how many of his goals will be in addition to our other goal scorers and how many will be ones that one of the others would have scored anyway if he hadn't been there? I Know that would be supposition but so is so much else that is spoken about a 20 goal triker)
One last thing regarding Maynard, although I realise it is not his fault. If we get to the Premiership, and if he plays in the first game he will by then have cost us the best part of £3 million and will have played only a handful of games in 2 years. At his age then will we honestly expect to see any full return on the investment?
I concede he didn't play in the Bristol game, it was the one after it against Wolves, where he was subbed, then leeeds where he was subbed then Millwall where he was stretchered off. That aint the end of the transfer window.
I accept we need another goal scorer and someone who can replace HH but I do not understand why everyone talks about this guy as if he actually did something. Let's just say we need a replacement or support for HH and leave it at that.
Let me ask 3 questions.
Q1: As people say we need a 20 goal a season striker how much would they be prepared to see City pay for one in January>
Q2: As by the time we get one we will have played 26 games would they be hasppy if this new striker scored 9 goals between now and May? That's about right at a strike rate of over 2 games a goal?
Q£: If we do buy and he does score how many of his goals will be in addition to our other goal scorers and how many will be ones that one of the others would have scored anyway if he hadn't been there? I Know that would be supposition but so is so much else that is spoken about a 20 goal triker)
One last thing regarding Maynard, although I realise it is not his fault. If we get to the Premiership, and if he plays in the first game he will by then have cost us the best part of £3 million and will have played only a handful of games in 2 years. At his age then will we honestly expect to see any full return on the investment?
I dont think we necessarily need a 20 goal striker.
But I think at 35 Helgusson is past his sell by date and a top class replacement would give us an outstanding chance to go up.
Maynard despite not being match fit in the games you mention looked a real threat.
As for the money we are so much in debt failing to go up this year or next will be a disaster. We simply HAVE to go up for financial reasons i say pay whatever is needed. Thats why id go for Jerome as hed cause all sorts of problems for teams at this level.
But I think at 35 Helgusson is past his sell by date and a top class replacement would give us an outstanding chance to go up.
Maynard despite not being match fit in the games you mention looked a real threat.
As for the money we are so much in debt failing to go up this year or next will be a disaster. We simply HAVE to go up for financial reasons i say pay whatever is needed. Thats why id go for Jerome as hed cause all sorts of problems for teams at this level.
Snaggs - I agree that this 20+ goals a season striker thing is overdone - it's not an essential. I said on another thread than Austin's 20 so far for Burnley hasn't done them much good other than keep them out of the relegation spots.
The point is that a player like Maynard will score goals that others won't. Helguson is a great team player and fits the Malky work ethic formula perfectly, but he has major flaws in front of goal - namely his two feet.
He's missed countless chances that someone like Maynard would have buried. Instead of scrambling victories at the death or slidng to defeats because of poor finishing, we could have won more comfortably and even be a few more points clear by now.
All conjecture I know, but this is what this board is all about and long may it continue.
The point is that a player like Maynard will score goals that others won't. Helguson is a great team player and fits the Malky work ethic formula perfectly, but he has major flaws in front of goal - namely his two feet.
He's missed countless chances that someone like Maynard would have buried. Instead of scrambling victories at the death or slidng to defeats because of poor finishing, we could have won more comfortably and even be a few more points clear by now.
All conjecture I know, but this is what this board is all about and long may it continue.
As I've said before, we won every game he played in. He won penalties and provided assists. Anyone who knows anything about Maynard knows that IF he'd stayed fit goals would have followed.
He might not have been as effective in other ways as the player who's had his place has been and maybe we'd not he better off with him available. I don't believe that for a minute tbh but it's a counter argument that can be made alongside the we never really had him point of view.
On this forum we seemed to think we had enough before we signed Maynard on deadline day, first half of the season says we were right. Whether we need to sign another striker probably depends on the fitness of HH. If he stays fit (which history suggests he doesn't) we're fine IMO. If he gets injured Rudy maybe doesn't score enough to lead the line of a top of the table team. Obviously Rudy has 2 in 4 games at the moment but again his past history doesnt provide the sort of confidence I'd like about a decent scoring rate continuing.
I won't be too disappointed if we don't sign anyone up front and if Kev can keep his form we're not a million miles away in defence. Midfield is definitely covered so perhaps the mm line of a quiet January might just be the truth and not a smoke screen.
He might not have been as effective in other ways as the player who's had his place has been and maybe we'd not he better off with him available. I don't believe that for a minute tbh but it's a counter argument that can be made alongside the we never really had him point of view.
On this forum we seemed to think we had enough before we signed Maynard on deadline day, first half of the season says we were right. Whether we need to sign another striker probably depends on the fitness of HH. If he stays fit (which history suggests he doesn't) we're fine IMO. If he gets injured Rudy maybe doesn't score enough to lead the line of a top of the table team. Obviously Rudy has 2 in 4 games at the moment but again his past history doesnt provide the sort of confidence I'd like about a decent scoring rate continuing.
I won't be too disappointed if we don't sign anyone up front and if Kev can keep his form we're not a million miles away in defence. Midfield is definitely covered so perhaps the mm line of a quiet January might just be the truth and not a smoke screen.
If we lose Heidi to injury we are in trouble. Rudy has never stayed fit for a long period and Velinkonja is unproven.
We would 'only' have Bellamy and Mason.
We would 'only' have Bellamy and Mason.
I think there will be some business in January. MM will be looking for someone who will be good enough for the prem IF we go up, or to put us in a stronger position next season if we don't.
One or two permanent signings and one or two loans. The latter are likely to come towards the end of the window.
One defender and one striker maybe all we see. But that could be enough.
One or two permanent signings and one or two loans. The latter are likely to come towards the end of the window.
One defender and one striker maybe all we see. But that could be enough.
If we dont sign a striker then we will be in the play offs.
Nothing to do with HH or RG getting injured.
The problem is Craig Bellamy wont play in all our games.
Promotion wont be decided in January but the business done this month will have a big say. Hull will strengthen with a striker and we need to do the same. If we dont then we may throw away the season.
I expect signings very quickly.
I will be disappointed if players arent in place for the next home game.
Nothing to do with HH or RG getting injured.
The problem is Craig Bellamy wont play in all our games.
Promotion wont be decided in January but the business done this month will have a big say. Hull will strengthen with a striker and we need to do the same. If we dont then we may throw away the season.
I expect signings very quickly.
I will be disappointed if players arent in place for the next home game.