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Thursday 13th December Daily Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by ROTO, Dec 12, 2012.

  1. ROTO

    ROTO Well-Known Member

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    5.30 Kempton Nazreef 20/1 my NAP for tomorrow. Write up to come but I'd say price won't last all that long.
     
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  2. hawkeye

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    gone already, only 14/1 now. i have left it but good luck.
     
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  3. NassauBoard

    NassauBoard Well-Known Member

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    Roto, I am sorry to do this, but I agree with your selection completely, just a shame I missed the 20s. He is my nap now returning to his trip and as long as he gets out nicely and gets a fair sit (1 off the rail) I think he will go very close. Yard are having winners too at present which bodes well.
     
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  4. stick

    stick Bumper King

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    You're bollocksed then ROTO, the Nassau kiss of death. EMBANKMENT for me, lots more to come!
     
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  5. NassauBoard

    NassauBoard Well-Known Member

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    Give over, I am in a good run of form, Galaxy ruined my bet earlier in the week, not vice versa.
     
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  6. Dexter

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    Blimey...you lot are worse than Eddie and Dexter...!

    I was quite taken with foundry's win at L'town at the start of last month and the form got a little boost today with the 3rd and 5th from that race,split by a decent yardstick,finishing 6l and more clear of the rest.

    Nothing tomorrow again..shame we has a cracking little novice 'chase weathered off today...was piling into that.

    I wish they would bring back a/w hurdling...
     
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  7. gazboy

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    As low as 10/1! Anybody any views on Chelsea -1 versus the cheesemakers?
     
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  8. ROTO

    ROTO Well-Known Member

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    5.30 Kempton

    Nazreef 20/1 NAP


    I think this race looks a fascinating contest as, although there are plenty of horses who like to sit close to the pace, there isn't really an out and out front runner (Bank On Me, True To Form and Grey Mirage have done so very infrequently) so I'm really hoping Hughie Morrison gives Robert Winston the instruction to make all with Nazreef as he did so very effectively over today's C+D back in April as I think he could easily get an easy time of things out in front. Focusing on Nazreef specifically, he hasn't been at his best since that race when scoring in really impressive fashion by 3L in a race that worked out very nicely off only a 1lb lower mark but he certainly showed a great deal more on his last start to suggest he's coming back to his best and looked as if a return to the winners enclosure was not far away. In the early part of the year, Nazreef was in fine form landing a 9f contest event at Wolves off a mark of 94 in March before bettering that in superb style 2 starts later off a mark of 96 over Kempton's mile when making all in a first time visor to land what looked an extremely competitive event on paper in really taking fashion as he was eased down at the end for a comfortable success a month later. Nazreef had one final start before a break on the turf where he bombed out and probably picked up a slight knock as he was eased. Regardless, he really doesn't seem to be at home on that surface anymore and there is a 20lb disparity between his AW and turf marks now.

    On the back of 4 month absence, he made his reappearance at Windsor on soft ground before returning to the AW over today's C+D for two starts in September. The first of these was off a mark of 103 (upped 7lb for his emphatic victory earlier in the year) where he never seemed happy and was never better than midfield as he trailed home in last and a good looking conditions event where he again didn't look at home as he couldn't really pick up when held off the pace. He then had two more starts on the turf before taking in a handicap hurdle last month but after looking pretty out of form in his 6 starts since August (you've got to ignore all the turf runs) he showed an awful lot more over 10f at Lingfield at the end of November off his current mark of 97 and I think there is one glaring reason for this - it was the first time since his win in April that he was prominent on the AW. Under today's pilot Robert Winston, Nazreef sat just off the pace the whole way round and with about 1f to go he was bang there with every chance but I just don't think he lasted home the 1m2f trip as he was nabbed for 3rd on the line as he was ultimately beaten 1.75L. It was a highly encouraging effort now that his mark had fallen back down to a level he could compete off and I think he's definitely going to build on that run. That race was full of in form rivals and the form has worked out rather nicely from the two horses who have run since. The 2nd Robin Hoods Bay was beaten 1.5L off a 2lb higher mark over the same C+D when he was forced to lead which I don't think suited whilst the 3rd Emerald Wilderness was beaten a neck on his next start off the same mark. Moreover, the winner Tinshu had won the same race the year previously and was clearly aimed for landing that race for the 2nd year running.

    Given that 10f seemed to stretch him, it is not at all surprising that Nazreef is dropped back to a mile and I really hope getting to the lead is the plan as he seemed to love bowling along out in front back in April and it will allow Winston to set the fractions he desires. At the very least, he should be allowed sit very close to the pace given that the other plausible pace angles in the race are drawn wider than him. The ideal scenario would be him getting an easy lead but as long as he gets a share of it or is not far away then I will be happy. The obvious danger is the progressive and unexposed Embankment who looks on a mark that he should be able to exploit but he may looks to need a decent gallop as he comes from off the pace and he is also stepping up significantly in class from a Class 4 to a Class 2 event. In addition, the other two at the top of the market Storm King and Rakaan also like to be held up and I'm hoping this race will be run to suit those that race prominently. Although he hasn't really been at his best since last April when slaughtering a really good field off just 1lb lower, he's now fallen back to a manageable mark and he ran a race full of encouragement on his last start as he is returned to the scene of the victory of his last success. Robert Winston takes the ride and he gets on very well with this 5 year old having a perfect 2-2 record before his latest start. The draw in stall 5 should pose no issues if getting to the front is his aim and I really think he's going to build on his latest effort. With Hughie Morrison in good form at present, if everything goes to plan then I am confident of a very big showing from Nazreef and ideally a return to the winners enclosure.
     
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  9. ROTO

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    Nass the last horse to memory that you and I agreed on was Ulck Du Lin. More of the same will do nicely!
     
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  10. Galaxy

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    Morning all

    Three for me today

    1.50 Taunton - CARRIGMORNA KING @ 9/2

    Won his beginners chase in good fashion and i expect him to follow up in handicap company today.

    5.30 Kempton - DOCOFTHEBAY @ 33/1

    Was rated 103 on the AW earlier in the year and ran well in listed company on a couple of occasions. Was rated 95 on his comeback in October after a short break and has run twice since, dropping a further 8lbs to 87 - a career low mark on the AW since his first maiden win. Worth a chance at big odds win & place.

    7.00 Kempton - AXIOM @ 20/1

    Trained by one of the best new trainers on the block in Ed Walker, who has a superb 21% strike rate with his runners in the last twelve months. Axiom was second off a mark of 100 at Lingfield back in March. Ran a nice race last month off a mark of 89 when beaten just over 2L into sixth and has been dropped a further 2lbs since to 87. Just like Docothebay, worth a chance at big odds win and place.


    Good luck all!
     
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  11. Ardent1965

    Ardent1965 Well-Known Member

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    Well today....I'm in a ******mess with the drink. Software co done serious damage last nite. Sign today??? **** me after an evening with the vice chairman I would sign anything.

    Pis*** as ****.

    Presentation to board at 10!
     
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  12. Galaxy

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  13. OddDog

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    One that takes the eye today at Taunton is Rajdhani Express with the excellent Sam Waley-Cohen claiming 5lbs (what?). This one finished 8th in last season's Ladbroke off a rating of 139 and made a promising start in the chasing sphere with a close-up 2nd to Nicholls hotpot Elenika (has since run well behind Parsnip Pete, Milarrow et al).

    That self-same Elenika runs later on the card bu I strongly fancy C&D winner Ciceron to get back to winning ways after a fine effort in second place last time out.

    Nice looking bumper rounds things off at Taunton and the one I like is Alan King's Oasis Dream gelding Fighter Jet for a small dabble. Looks impeccably bred this one, being out of a Dancing Brave mare.

    Interesting runner in the opener at Gowran is the former Sir Michael Stoute inmate Hartside who takes to hurdling having run up a hat-trick in the space of 8 days on the flat for Tommy Carmody in the "summer" (all 3 were on soft or heavy). He is now in the ownership of Gigginstown Stud and Davy Russell takes the ride on Noel Meade's Greman-bred gelding ("vee hef vays of making zem stay").

    Best of luck to everyone <ok>
     
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  14. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor
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    The double posting bug strikes again.
     
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  15. NassauBoard

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    Blooming Nora, halved in price already and as low as 15/2 with the cunning Irish chap. Seems like we are not the only ones ROTO, and well done for getting the 20/1
     
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  16. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Morning, team. How are we??? Good, good. Liven up though people. Cor blimey, chop-chop.

    This week certainly is &#8216;birthday week&#8217; as following the huge celebrations of Mr Henderson&#8217;s 62nd on Monday today we say &#8216;many happy returns&#8217; to old boy John Francome (60), who like my good self espouses much Wiltshire wit and wisdom, and Alan King who is 46. The county set will be parting tonight re the latter and it is indeed to the latter that we turn for an each-way tickle in the &#8216;lucky last&#8217; at Taunton:

    Fighter Jet (3.50 Taunton) &#8211; this son of Oasis Dream is bred in the old purple as his dam is a full-sister to Derby winner Commander In Chief and a half sister to such excellent types as Warning and Dushyantor. Fighter Jet never made it to the track on the Flat but is sure to have been well tutored ahead of his debut by the Barbury Castle handler who knows what to do when he has a useful bumper performer on his hands. This is an above average National Hunt Flat race but 8/1 to my eye is far too big given the yard he hails from and his lineage and I think Fighter Jet can reward each-way support this afternoon. Alan King has incidentally won with 3 out of his last 9 runners so his current form is another positive.

    Good luck, all.
     
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  17. Benvenuto Cellini

    Benvenuto Cellini 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Gowran
    12.35 Dougal Philps 11/10
    1.35 Knockanarrigan 16/1
    2.35 Sherika 7/2
    3.05 Champagne Agent Evs

    Champagne Agent should be 1/3, cracking bet at evens
     
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  18. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    The top Pipe horse in the &#8216;lucky last&#8217; at Taunton is being backed off the boards and now down to 11/10! Given the confidence behind Doctor Harper is Daddy Martin up to his old tricks again, mewonders?!? My Fighter Jet in comparison is on the old drift.

    Inspection called at Cheltenham for tomorrow morning but it only applies to the X-Country course, people.
     
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  19. redcgull

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    Morning all, and another crisp and cold one it is too... A few tricky calls to be made down in Taunton, but as you know someone has to win em...!!!

    12.50 - Jojabean, 9/2
    1.20 - Fortuna Rose, 13/2
    1.50 - Rajdhani Express, 4/1... bet
    2.20 - Willoughby Hedge, 9/4... bet
    2.50 - Home Run, 15/8... bet
    3.20 - Elinika, 9/4
    3.50 - Such A Legend, 12/1

    Singles n Doubles... Good luck to all who are playing today...<cheers>
     
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  20. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    You don't think Champagne Agent is a twicer then? backed him at Fairyhouse, thought he'd always fall short after that.
     
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